18-02-2004 19:12									#1
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I had never played Hittites until my most recent game. I decided I wanted a challenge so I played them. Of course I didnt have any horses, so I couldn't build their UU - the 3man chariot. Eventually I pulled a page out of the AI strategy book and sent a settler thru enemy territory to settle on a horse resourse so I could build the UU and get a golden age going...

Anyway, I still have not played Korea, Inca, or India. They dont seem to offer much of an advantage..... Maybe I should play them for a challenge ...

	18-02-2004 19:27									#2
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Not played the French because, well, they're PINK !

Jusk kidding. I never played at least more than half of the current 31 nations, and from Conquests I played only the Mayans.

	18-02-2004 20:32									#3
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My list:

Hittites
Portugal
Spain (this goes back to PTW, I think. I don't recall ever playing Spain)
Korea (same as Spain)
Vikings (same thing again. Theseus is gonna yell at me)
English w/new traits
Carthage w/new traits
Aztecs w/new traits

I think that's it. I definitely need to try out the English on a high-water map.

-Arrian

	18-02-2004 21:19									#4
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In Vanilla and PtW played most civs but I didn’t really spread the wealth, I primarily played as China, Arabia, Persia, Japan and Ottomans.

Never played the Americans in any version – just a bad UU trait combination for me.

Never finished a game with Russia or Mongols – can’t stand looking at their leader head every time I open the diplo screen (no, really, that’s the reason).


For "new" C3C civs I haven’t gotten around to playing: Hittites, Portugal, English or Carthage.

So far, the Netherlands look like my C3C “go to” civ.

	18-02-2004 21:52									#5
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Well since the have reinstalled so many times the HoF is always empty or nearly so, so I have no idea which ones Ihave missed.

I am sure many of the original ones have not been played in C3C.

	18-02-2004 23:52									#6
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quote: Originally posted by TheArsenal Never played the Americans in any version – just a bad UU trait combination for me. For "new" C3C civs I haven’t gotten around to playing: Hittites, Portugal, English or Carthage. So far, the Netherlands look like my C3C “go to” civ.

When you play Americans, you don't even think about the UU. You think about the Exp/Ind combination. This is less powerful in C3C than in Vanilla or PTW, however it is still quite powerful on a huge world -or- if you are playing w/ less than max # civs on any size world.

Dutch are great. The Seafaring trait is awesome. So make sure you try Carthage, but be prepared for an early GA.

I dont play many religious civs. Which do you think is the best one?

	18-02-2004 23:56									#7
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Hittities. I think they're the only ones I haven't played as.


[shocking admission] I love the Koreans and the H'wacha [/shocking admission]

	19-02-2004 00:23									#8
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quote: Originally posted by asleepathewheel [shocking admission] I love the Koreans and the H'wacha [/shocking admission]

How much of a difference does having Hwacha make to your military strategy?

	19-02-2004 00:31									#9
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Huge. I shift from mainly a fast mover army to a slowmover grind it out march.

With a ton of Hwacha's you can have nearly a zero loss war, depending of course on how the front is situated. In my best campaign with the Koreans, I was attacking a civ that was mainly horizontal about 3 cities deep, so I was just rolling from one city to the next with my stack of 20 Hwacha. And nearly every city I captured had cats, which I upgraded to increase my army. You need a handful of real units, though, for protection and garrisoning and a few fastmovers to clean up the mess.

	19-02-2004 01:39									#10
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the civs i haven't played yet? most of them. really! i always find myself staring at the civ selection screen and choosing always the same civs - greece, rome, egypt, and iroquois (don't ask me why). but i've been trying to diversify this, i recently played with carthage, aztecs and persians.

	19-02-2004 03:02									#11
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There are many I haven't played. The one I'm least likely to play is the Americans, partly because they seem so insipid (boring traits, boring UU) and partly because I simply can't bring myself to be them! In fact, all the American civs bore me. I'm also bored by the Germans, the Russians, the Greeks (although I always played as them in Civ1), the Romans, and the Zulu - and there's no way I could be the Zulu anyway, after all they've done to me in game after game.

I can't help returning to the Babylonians, the Chinese, the Carthaginians (not tried them since Conquests though), and the Egyptians, all mainly for cool factor (the same applies to the French - what's wrong with pink anyway?!), although the Egyptians and Chinese seem to be intrinsically very strong. I used to be in the habit of renaming the Babylonians as the Sumerians, so naturally they're in, and I'm simply in love with the Byzantines now - cool factor *and* great traits/UU. Can't get better than that.

	19-02-2004 03:47									#12
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I'm down on the central/south american civs.

Haven't played Incas or Aztecs. I have, however, played Maya because of the jav tosser.

Haven't tried Sumeria yet...

	19-02-2004 05:09									#13
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...but not to gaming! Hi everyone...



Right, back on topic...

I only ever had Vanilla until about 4 weeks ago, although I've played a lot of C3C now...

The only Civs I _have_ played are

French
Persians
English
Eygptians
Chinese
Germans
Aztecs

and more lately

Mayans (for the workers+agri!)
Portugese (in age of disco)

Am I missing out? Answers on a postcard etc...

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	19-02-2004 05:58									#14
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Welcome to Poly

you have a lot of civs left to choose from, that's for sure.



try as a seafaring civ in the epic game. Dutch are particularly powerful to use, IMHO.

	19-02-2004 06:09									#15
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quote: Originally posted by asleepathewheel Welcome to Poly you have a lot of civs left to choose from, that's for sure. try as a seafaring civ in the epic game. Dutch are particularly powerful to use, IMHO.

Thanks

Will do...

	19-02-2004 12:26									#16
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The one Civ I consciously kept away from was the Koreans since I've always thought their UU sucked. Having recently started my degree course at AU and begun to understand the benefits of artillery and the scientific trait, I have now begun a game as Korea. I have intentionally chosen as my rivals civs with strong middle ages UU's (generally knight replacements) such as Arabs, Ottomans, Chinese, Japanese, Russians. It will be interesting.

Since C3C I haven't got into the Middle-American civs so much.

	19-02-2004 13:09									#17
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heh. I haven't played most civs. Unless we are talking about scenarios in C3C

Let's start by who I have played. I have played as the Aztecs, Japanese, Celts, Romans, Babylonians, Egyptians (in a pbem), Persians (in the PTW demo only), and I think that's it. All the other ones I have not played in the epic game.

But if you include the Civ3 scenarios (including the tutorial scenariso) I have playd civs like America, germany, hittites, macedonians (greeks), spanish, incas, etc.

	19-02-2004 14:51									#18
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I've got a ton I haven't played. Probably close to 25 of the 31 available. Now the why is that I don't really play civ that much, and when I do start a game its usually a 16 player huge map game so it takes a fair while to resolve, or for me to get bored whichever happens first.

The Netherlands are a damn good civ, my current fav.

[Edit] The why. Was gonna make another post about it for the +1 but then thought I'd be good.
Quick Question: could somebody point me in the right direction to where to find out how to make it so I can play with 31 civs on a huge map, thanks.

	19-02-2004 18:57									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Flip McWho The Netherlands are a damn good civ, my current fav.

Yeh, look personally I think the Netherlands are so good that I've started to feel guilty about choosing them, so I don't play them any more. Warped, huh?

	19-02-2004 19:10									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Thriller Yeh, look personally I think the Netherlands are so good that I've started to feel guilty about choosing them, so I don't play them any more. Warped, huh?

I feel the same way about Ottomans, Carthage, China, and Maya.

	19-02-2004 19:12									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Flip McWho [Edit] The why. Was gonna make another post about it for the +1 but then thought I'd be good. Quick Question: could somebody point me in the right direction to where to find out how to make it so I can play with 31 civs on a huge map, thanks.

Go to this thread: http://www.apolyton.net/forums/show...threadid=102864

	19-02-2004 19:15									#22
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Come to think of it, I guess I haven't played Egypt or Greece either. Their UU's never appealed to me.

	19-02-2004 21:28									#23
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there are a lot of civs I havn´t played, I almost always stick to my favorites Iroquois, Babs, Greece and the Netherlands... kinda boring I guess, I´m gonna start playing more civs, played a recent game as the arabs and it went really well

	19-02-2004 22:53									#24
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I don't play that much, and since I tend to go for long-lasting mostly peaceful games, they tend to last a long time. For that reason, I haven't played many of the civs, but I've never, since vanilla Civ III (when I was in love with the French) played the same civ twice. The civs I've played in C3C, some in scenarios:

Vikings
Maya
Russia
Netherlands
China
Ottomans
Zulu (briefly; I got them randomly but stopped pretty early)
Portugal (damn early GA with the Great Lighthouse...)
Spain
Japan
Inca
India

Of course, each game I start is as a new civ, so theoretically the list will keep growing till I hit each at least once. Next game is likley Arabs.

	20-02-2004 04:13									#25
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Civ's I have never played?

From the original:

The Zulu
The Greeks
The English
The Indians
The Germans

From PTW:

None of them except the Celts (got them from getting conquest)

From Conquest:

The Sumerias
The Hittites
The Portuguese

	24-02-2004 05:15									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Arrian Vikings (same thing again. Theseus is gonna yell at me)

I'm not going to yell.

I'm going wait until the next time you are next to a coast, and, from my Galley, whack you upside the head with a big axe.

	24-02-2004 05:42									#27
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just played the Iroquios last night, so you can knock that off my list. Although I didn't have access to horses until late in the game, and I couldn't trigger a golden age.

	24-02-2004 08:23									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident just played the Iroquios last night, so you can knock that off my list. Although I didn't have access to horses until late in the game, and I couldn't trigger a golden age.

Iroquios with no horses? Man that sucks!

	24-02-2004 08:45									#29
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Brutal

	24-02-2004 10:00									#30
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I *think* I've screwed around with all civs until about 1000 BC, but might have missed a few. I've had RL in the way, and have been waiting on the 'final' patch to really go for it with epic games, and have been purposefully pacing myself on Conquests.