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E_T
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Orlando, Florida
Mar 2001 time: 00:34
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From the Teleport thread at the UN
quote: == GWT withdraws its protest ==
After some long and straining days of discussion, GWT has come to the agreement, that we'll withdraw our protest and continue to play the ISDG2 with the last received save.
Why has it come to this? Well we find, that in the past there have been too many inconsistencies, loopholes or other unfair exploits. Undeniably, this has to end at some point. It has to be halted, that every team - GWT itself is no exception - searches for the best and most tricky way to to get an advantage over ones opponents. We want this to stop because we're tired of all the fighting and back stabbing.
We understand, that we have offended other teams and their members, by helping GCA escape from extinction. We understand, that it probably wasn't right - even though it was a legal action, aproved by the referee. We understand, that is was just a matter of time until We'd receive our due. Unfortunately, it has been paid back and a high price it was. We still believe that it was a heavy blow - an immense blow - and we still feel that we've been corrupted.
However we will accept it for the good cause.
It's about time, that we all stop searching for new loopholes, etc. Nonetheless, someone has to start at some point, even if it means dealing with an uncomfortable situation. We all play for a reason: we want to have a good time with a worldwide community of similar-interested individuals.
In the name of a more straightforward future, we ask all of you, to drop your claim for any kind of reparations for past teleportation or WW effect. Please stop counting certain issues against current situations and help us move on. We accept our burden as well and to be honest, there could as well be a claim for reparations for the whole "Fortify All" issue.
From now on, no further unit teleportation of any kind shall be allowed. It shall be banned and any following ISDGs similarly.
In addition we'd like to incite to also forbid teleportation, if hostile units are just 1 round within striking range. Though this shall be discussed in a seperate thread, in the form of a sole issue and without any kind of reference to this situation.
We thank all of you for the time and effort you put into solving this issue. It's been worth the trouble, as we finally worked out what has been in disorder for a long time.
Sincerly,
Your GWT |
If we want to go back, we need to work on GWT NOW!!
E_T
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wervdon
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I could care less about when we replay from if at all, but don't let them out without giving us a period of peace to eliminate the WW.
EDIT:
In fact, I would go so far as to say:
We'll replay from whichever year is sent to us, BUT we are going to send GCA peace accepted on that turn. If the save comes back to us without them accepting peace we will hold the save indefinately until the WW issue (which was caused solely by GCA teleporting its entire civ across the world) is resolved once and for all. We do not demand or request any reperations for damage already caused to our economy from WW, but we have to insist future damage cease.
Also, I think any forced peace should be in effect until:
We share a city on the same continent as GCA or one side develops navigation and redeclares war on the other.
Last edited by wervdon on 22-02-2004 at 23:53
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Master Zen
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of naughty
Jan 2003 time: 23:34
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While this solution matches both CGN/Poly's original suggestion, we can't help but realize that it puts GWT in an undeniably advantageous situation which can very well mean CGN's downfall. Unfortunately at this moment there is absolutely nothing we can do about it. CGN is screwed because of their own incompetence.
- Why did they not offer replaying from 420 (just before the roads were cut)? 420, though worse off than 390 was undeniably better than 440. GWT in fact said they had no problem with replaying from 410...
- CGN has constantly shown to be unable to realize the perils of their strategic situation, and thus have been too slow in negotiating what is right for them until it is too late.
- CGN has also not learned to reign in their tempers (something certain Apolytonians haven't learned either) and have shown what happens when passion gets in the way of reason as demonstrated in the last few pages of the UN thread.
In conclusion, if CGN is to get its ass whooped, it is not because we failed to prevent it, it's because they have been too damn incompetent to save themselves. There is only so much we can do to assist them, but if it is a team incapable of understanding what is best for them, they are bound to fail, if not at this moment, not so far into the future.
As with GWT, it was THEIR protest and have now withdrawn it. We are in no position to demand a ruling on the matter since we wre initially (and publically) in favor of the same thing GWT is asking for right now (same with CGN).
The sorry part in all of this is that our arguments (by ALL teams) have been merely to salvage out the most advantageous in-game situation. In the end we have been caught in the basic flaw of our own arguments and now there's nothing we can do about it. We did all we could to get a favorable result out of this but it is for naught if CGN continually decides to shoot themselves in the foot.
Let's hope now that GWT's victory is not so devatating, and let's plan for the worst. We can still win this game, except it will now be far more challanging.
-MZ
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Hot_Enamel
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Melbourne, Australia
Aug 2002 time: 14:34
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I would make a post, that Apolyton intends to continue to interfere in the CGN/GWT/GCA war, to ensure that GWT & GCA encounter as much war weariness as possible.
We will continue with this exploit, even if CGN loses, and not give peace to either team until we are certain we have extracted as much damage to their economy as GCA has done to ours.
Last edited by Hot_Enamel on 23-02-2004 at 04:17
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wervdon
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I wouldn't HE.
Taking it to that level (we're going to do it to you too!) takes away from our argument that its against the spirit of the game and thus an exploit.
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