25-02-2004 21:20									#31
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Again, we don't know yet. Maybe they'll have 30 ready to upgrade. Maybe they'll have 0. The point is that we shouldn't put any of our eggs in any basket until we're sure. If GWT slows down and conditions allow, the more Muskets CGN can upgrade the better off we are, right? We should wait and see what opportunity they have to upgrade before we spend any of our treasury.

	25-02-2004 21:57									#32
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I have been sick the last several days, especially yesterday, when I had a fever of 101 F (and missing a day's work). I'm feeling a little better now and will try to get some more things about this posted soon.

E_T

	26-02-2004 00:26									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Trip Again, we don't know yet. Maybe they'll have 30 ready to upgrade. Maybe they'll have 0. The point is that we shouldn't put any of our eggs in any basket until we're sure. If GWT slows down and conditions allow, the more Muskets CGN can upgrade the better off we are, right? We should wait and see what opportunity they have to upgrade before we spend any of our treasury.

My point is should you find out before you say we can't do ET's plan because CGN is going to need all the at gold. It seems as if the cart is put before the Horse in this case.

	26-02-2004 00:59									#34
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The AI values Workers at ~120 Gold each...

	26-02-2004 01:07									#35
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quote: Originally posted by BigFree My point is should you find out before you say we can't do ET's plan because CGN is going to need all the at gold. It seems as if the cart is put before the Horse in this case.

E_T's plan requires quite a bit of gold to be spent next turn. That is my only problem. If it specified a certain amount of short-rushing to be done sometime in the future then I would be more responsive. However, as it stands now, the cart is being put ahead of the horse... though only with regards to short-rushing. This is why we should vote no now.

	26-02-2004 01:58									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Dominae The AI values Workers at ~120 Gold each...

The AI also never builds artillery, has 4 tile city spacing, and has the micro-managing abilities of an orangutan...

	26-02-2004 02:10									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Master Zen The AI also never builds artillery, has 4 tile city spacing, and has the micro-managing abilities of an orangutan...

I have a funny feeling that conmcb25, Hot_Enamel, and Beta may resent that remark.... well, unless they let the chimps do all of the micromanaging because even they recognize that orangutans aren't any good at it.

	26-02-2004 02:15									#38
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Poll is closed. Results: 8 to 8.

	26-02-2004 02:55									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos I have a funny feeling that conmcb25, Hot_Enamel, and Beta may resent that remark.... well, unless they let the chimps do all of the micromanaging because even they recognize that orangutans aren't any good at it.

...wait a minute... why am I laughing ...

	26-02-2004 03:00									#40
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I thought the orangutans did the diplomacy, the gorillas did the fighting and the chimps did the micro-managing

	26-02-2004 17:57									#41
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See my final report on the ultimate costs that I will need to short rush, here. It's a total of 24 gold.

E_T

	27-02-2004 04:10									#42
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quote: Originally posted by E_T See my final report on the ultimate costs that I will need to short rush, here. It's a total of 24 gold. E_T

Consuls? Comments? Questions?

	27-02-2004 05:12									#43
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is that 24 gold for just one turn or the whole plan?

If it's the whole plan, then ... that's more than reasonable. But if it's just one turn, we need to decide if we're going to debate this thing every turn or if we should discuss it as a whole project and consider the total costs over a period of time, etc.

--Togas

	27-02-2004 05:27									#44
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quote: Originally posted by E_T So, my total Shortrush needs before the Palace move is just 24 gold on this next turn only. MoI E_T

	27-02-2004 05:32									#45
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If all he needs for everything is just 24 gold then I say do it.

	27-02-2004 05:44									#46
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24g sounds great

	27-02-2004 08:37									#47
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Responded in the other thread.