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sabrewolf is offline sabrewolf

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the aim of this PBEM (besides fun of course) is to get a round per day... 2 australians, 2 europeans, 1 north american makes this possible.

settings:
- standard world size (100x100)
- continents
- 70% water
- random barbarians
- random climate
- random temperature
- random geology
- all original victory conditions activated (diplomatic, space ship, domination, conquest, cultural)
- default epic rules (of newest patch)
- accelerated production is ON

players:
ordered by playing time
playertimezonepreffered playtimeemailother
sabrewolfGMT +1GMT: ~00:00±1hrsabrewolf at freesurf dot chnetherlands
smellymummyGMT -8GMT: ~04:00±3hrssm at inethighway dot comrandom civ
paddy the scotGMT +11before ricketyclikpaddythescot at hotmail dot comengland
ricketyclikGMT +10GMT: ~11:00±2hrsric at actewagl dot net dot aurandom civ
chrisiusmaximusGMTGMT: ~18:00±1hrChrisBennett8 AT aol DOT combyzantines
monarch AI????
monarch AI---random civ
monarch AI---random civ


edit: standings after 2800 BC
http://apolyton.net/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=2876705

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CerberusIV is offline CerberusIV
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I'd be interested.

Pangaea is easiest for making contact with other civs but curraghs probably make continents viable in C3C.

Best not to have any AI's - too easy to beat up and the player who starts next to an AI usually has an advantage.

Monarch difficulty is reasonable in terms of tech rate and unhappy citizens.

4 players on a small map or 6 on a standard.

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well, sid AI won't be easy to beat up

continents sounds good to me too...

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Aug 1999
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i'm interested as well.

will it be a standard or small map?

ricketyclik is offline ricketyclik
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I'll play. Any settings are fine with me. Random civ. GMT +10. ric at actewagl dot net dot au

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how about 6 human players on standard map size?
so 2 spots left currently...

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how about 6 human players on standard map size?
so 2 spots left currently...


Sounds good

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count me in
sm at inethighway dot com gmt -8 random civ

sabrewolf is offline sabrewolf

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first post updated

please post what your ideal daily playing times are so we can try and get in 1 round per day (having australia, europe and north america won't allow us more than 1 turn).

thanks


oh, and if i'm doing something wrong: don't hesitate to tell me so.. i'm new to PBEM

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GMT

Usually play around 1800 to 2200

Random civ

Give it another day or two to see if we can get another couple of players, if not then go on a small map with the 4 of us.

If we can keep up one turn a day that is pretty good. Most of my PBEM's aren't managing that!

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I normally play at 0900-1300 GMT during the week, 2100-2400 and 1000-1400 GMT on the weekends.

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looks good until now (see first post).
if smellymummy is an evening player, we've got a good chance to get this daily thing going.

CerberusIV, i can imagine the 1 turn/day pace will be quite difficult, but as long as we try, it's fine. it's just bad if we do the wrong succession and take a week for each turn...

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I'll play... GMT +11

paddythescot at hotmail dot com

I can play at almost any hour of the day...

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ChrisiusMaximus is offline ChrisiusMaximus
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Im Interested


EDIT GMT, sorry forgot to mention that.

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i can play my turns in the evening, sure no problem. morning also, doesn't matter much...

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I like the sound of a fast game...

will we be having set game times to get through the turns with some speed?

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GREAT!

we're up to 6 people and it looks like we may be able to get the round-per-day pace (well, let's say 5 turns per week)!

the bottleneck may be europe with 3 players... so it needs more discipline from us.

chrisiusmaximus: when would you play your turns? before cerberusIV (afternoon/early evening), between him and me (later evening) or after me (nighttime)?

paddythescot: great to see you so flexible. what's better for you:
quote:
Originally posted by ricketyclik
I normally play at 0900-1300 GMT during the week, 2100-2400 and 1000-1400 GMT on the weekends.

before or after ricketyclik?
(we're speaking of weekdays mainly...)

also, please help me fill in the empty spots. we're missing two email-addresses (of the two british) and if the two new ones agree to random civs.
please everyone also check the first post to see if you agree with the settings.

concerning the patch:
1.15 is current, but 1.18 (coming out soon) would be better as it doesn't allow loading the games in SP.
should we a) wait or b) start with gentlemanly trust?

last, what do we do if someone starts off with a miserable starting location (like a very small island or plains without water access, etc)?

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current proposed settings:
- standard map size
- continents?
- 60% water (higher chance of better starting terrain)
- 6 humans
- 2 AI on monarch level?
- everything else random

CerberusIV is offline CerberusIV
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Looks OK.

I would prefer no AI's but am not insisting on that.

email CerberusIVciv3 AT aol DOT com

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quote:
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concerning the patch:
1.15 is current, but 1.18 (coming out soon) would be better as it doesn't allow loading the games in SP.
should we a) wait or b) start with gentlemanly trust?


Gentlemanly trust is my way of life

quote:
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last, what do we do if someone starts off with a miserable starting location (like a very small island or plains without water access, etc)?


I generally play what I get, but if others have other ideas, let them speak now

As for settings, they look fine to me.

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Hi sabrewolf,

my address is ChrisiusMaximus@hotmail.com

can we choose civs ? I dont mind waiting for the patch if thats the concensus, though Im 1.12 ATM.

got sick of downloading all the patches that were coming out a whiles back.

I am online several times a day and can fire saves back morning evening or night time, so fit me in where you like. Though I say so myself I am very reliable.

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woohoo... this is going to be great

if chrisius can play before cerberus (so finishing the turns by 8pm), it _could_ work.

paddy, you've got a bigger gap if you play before ricketyclik, but i don't know what time that would be in your time zone.

ChrisiusMaximus, so far, everyone has chosen random civ. but if you prefer picking a definitive civ, it's up to you ... but then there's no restarting, if your agricultural civ starts in an arid region of the world

1.15 is the current public (beta) patch. the next patch should be coming out this week but it could take longer... how about we wait until sunday, trying to agree on general stuff, and if the patch is out by then, we'll take it, otherwise 1.15?

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quote:
Originally posted by CerberusIV
If we can keep up one turn a day that is pretty good. Most of my PBEM's aren't managing that!


One Turn per day would be a great speed. I agree CerberusIV, most PBEM's stall and lose speed... Yet this looks like a good and reliable crew... will be a shame to have to make vassal states out of your civ's,,, but these things happen

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I would like to play prior to ricketyclik. I am online before him each day, and this way the save can be ready for him, and may assist us all in getting that elusive extra turn in some nights...

Also, I am open to set session times where we can knock over a heap of turns. This has worked very well in some other PBEM's that I am in. To assist in this I have MSN Messenger, just use my email address; and ICQ, click on the link under my name etc.

My family request 13:30 and 14:30 GMT off monday to friday... and that I get some sleep time etc , apart from that I am here, with one PC for the game, and another for work... a fair bit of the day / night.. my family label my work room 'A Dwarven Civ Centre...' not sure why really...!

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Is it alright to request a Civ?

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It would be good to start this PBEM with the New wonder patch... God bless FireAxis that they get this one right

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If someone is really upset with their start position, I am happy to restart. Could this be brought to everyones attention very quickly.

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woohoo... this is going to be great

paddy, you've got a bigger gap if you play before ricketyclik, but i don't know what time that would be in your time zone.

1.15 is the current public (beta) patch. the next patch should be coming out this week but it could take longer... how about we wait until sunday, trying to agree on general stuff, and if the patch is out by then, we'll take it, otherwise 1.15?


Hi,

Not sure what you mean by 'bigger gap'?

sounds good for the patch

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quote:
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Also, I am open to set session times where we can knock over a heap of turns. This has worked very well in some other PBEM's that I am in. To assist in this I have MSN Messenger, just use my email address; and ICQ, click on the link under my name etc.

can this work with 2 oceanians, 3 europeans and one western north american? time distance between the groups: 9hours, 9 hours, 5 hours.

quote:

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ok, which one?

quote:
It would be good to start this PBEM with the New wonder patch... God bless FireAxis that they get this one right

they're getting better each time

quote:
If someone is really upset with their start position, I am happy to restart. Could this be brought to everyones attention very quickly.

possibilities:
a) no restart
b) restart in the first year (after placing the city)
c) restart within 10 turns (when borders expand)
d) restart if 3 or more players request it

i'd vote for a) and d)

ok, gotta get my lunch...

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quote:
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possibilities:
a) no restart
b) restart in the first year (after placing the city)
c) restart within 10 turns (when borders expand)
d) restart if 3 or more players request it

i'd vote for a) and d)

ok, gotta get my lunch...

I'll be playing a) but will vote for b) to accomodate the lilly-livered knee quivering brethren.

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Not sure about set times, maybe one or two sessions at a weekend but...

I just downloaded 1.15 (at last) and am inclined to start with that and upgrade to the official patch when it comes out. It should be soon so we won't have got beyond our first cities anyway.

I am OK with a random civ but if we are picking then I would go for the Sumerians.

Restarting is a last resort. If we are going to allow it I would say within the first 10 turns and you post a screenie to prove how bad it is then it is a majority vote.

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By the way, I should mention I'm going to be away this weekend.

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so shall we leave the start till your return, hopefully by then the wonder patch may be available...

does anybody know if the patch will full work on games started on 1.5?

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