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yes, let's make people work longer

Yes?

People live longer, people are in a good health longer, so people should also work longer, right?

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The SS surplus ought to be used to pay down the debt, so that there will be more money available in the future to use for SS, instead of debt and interest payments.

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Yes?

People live longer, people are in a good health longer, so people should also work longer, right?


Not really. At a certain point you really don't get much value out of having the elderly work. Besides, all other things being equal, Black men don't live as long as rest of us (average age of death is 67, IIRC)., and it would be unfair to deny them a retirement just because I'm gonna live to be 100. Nor could we allow some people to retire earlier if they're Black.

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Besides, all other things being equal, Black men don't live as long as rest of us (average age of death is 67, IIRC)., and it would be unfair to deny them a retirement just because I'm gonna live to be 100. Nor could we allow some people to retire earlier if they're Black.

...what?

Some people die at the age of 20. Under the same logic, it would be unfair to them if SS wouldn't start at the age of 18.

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For no group of people is the average age of death 20. If one whole social catagory of people (Black Men) only live to be, on average, 67, and retirement age is raised to 67.5, then on average, Black men will not ever see retirement. Not the occassional unlucky Black man, the average Black man.

I think we have a right to have a decade or two of retirement. We worked hard all our lives building this world, we should be able to sit back an enjoy it for a time, and not just a handful of years so some gnome can justify cutting taxes.

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EDIT: I just realised that arguing with you about this matter is absolutely pointless. This particular absurd questioning serves no purpose, I'll end it now.

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I think we have a right to have a decade or two of retirement. We worked hard all our lives building this world, we should be able to sit back an enjoy it for a time, and not just a handful of years so some gnome can justify cutting taxes.


I guess if Michael Jackson can become white, you can become black.

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I'd really rather not. I like not having the police harass me and people thinking I'm inferior because of what I look like.

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But you do see how the quote sounded like you were lumping yourself in with black men?

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I'd really rather not. I like not having the police harass me and people thinking I'm inferior because of what I look like.


u might wanna just return that big trucker hat w/ "commie" written across it that I sent u.

no big deal, just didn't know u felt that way.

 
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