18-03-2004 04:00									#271
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Ok, it was a crap idea, ditch it already *shrugs*

-Jam

	18-03-2004 04:10									#272
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It's not a bad idea, just need more players at start, 12-16.

	18-03-2004 05:08									#273
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Sent.

	18-03-2004 06:10									#274
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ordrs sent , awaiting my losses ...

	18-03-2004 18:26									#275
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Who are we still waiting for? The tension is driving me MAD

-Jam

	18-03-2004 18:31									#276
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Have orders from:
Jamski
Theben
Spaced
Rasputin
Doc

Awaiting orders from:
Skanky
Mad Captain
Frozzy
Mart

	18-03-2004 18:59									#277
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Actually, have orders from:
Jamski
Theben
Spaced
Rasputin
Doc
Mad Captain
Mart
Skanky

Awaiting orders from
Frozzy

Last edited by Drogue on 18-03-2004 at 19:49

	18-03-2004 19:13									#278
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Ok, you have mine too now.

	18-03-2004 19:36									#279
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Frozzy again? An undisciplined warrior, he is.

	18-03-2004 19:51									#280
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I can no say that I know who the top 4 are. However I'm not going to release that until I get Frozzy's orders.

I can also say that the Doc has won by an unprecidented margin. Whether or not that involves him KOing anyone, or beating everyone, will remain to be seen... 'Tis a very exciting finish... closer than I expected at the begining!

	18-03-2004 19:54									#281
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Arrgh!! Hurry up Frozzy!

	18-03-2004 20:03									#282
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Oh PLEASE Drogue!!! If you know the top 4, and Frozzy's results are not needed to work this out...

Then we can work out who's through as well

I'd rather hear it from you though.

-Jam

	18-03-2004 20:09									#283
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No, I want to learn from the posting of the matches!

	18-03-2004 20:23									#284
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Well, yes, if Frozzy's results aren't needed, it means that one or more of these didn't happen:
Ras scored 5 points more than Jamski
Ras scored 3 points more than Theben

Therefore, to stand a chance, Jamski would have to lose both his matches, and Theben have to lose one, while Ras wins both. That's a pretty long shot, and hasn't happened.

	18-03-2004 20:26									#285
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Actually, I could post matches 1-6 if you wish. None of those involve Frozzy or any of his opponents. If I stick to the 48 hour rule, Frozzy has another 5 hours. I'd like to give him time if possible though.

	18-03-2004 20:30									#286
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The one possibility you left out is that if (somehow) CaptainGarlic turns around against both me and Spaced and Jamski loses both matches the Captain could go through, or theoretically could tie Raz for 4th place. Even more of a long shot, I know, but just more of an indication how close this one is.

	18-03-2004 20:32									#287
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quote: Originally posted by Drogue Actually, I could post matches 1-6 if you wish. None of those involve Frozzy or any of his opponents. If I stick to the 48 hour rule, Frozzy has another 5 hours. I'd like to give him time if possible though.

What I posted means that Frozzy's matches COULD matter, however unlikely, so you should wait.

	18-03-2004 20:34									#288
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If you knew what has decided this, you'd see how amazingly close it is. As in were talking pretty much single points, both in the standings and in the bouts, deciding who goes through.

	18-03-2004 20:36									#289
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Theben: I have the results. Frozzy's matches can't matter for 4th place, since as I said, Ras didn't manage that long shot. Whether or not Mad Captain does that doesn't matter, since Mad Captain is not fighting Frozzy.

	18-03-2004 20:42									#290
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Regarding the latter stages, I have a balance suggestion.

I think, if the GM and both players agree, that the initial hitpoints could be altered for each matchup. My reasoning is that 2 defensive players can play for a long time and only knock 50 points off each say, whereas 2 attacking players can easily do that in one round.

	18-03-2004 20:44									#291
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Arrrrrrrrgh! Me brain!

So, the top 4 is decided for sure, is that what you're saying? And we have to wait on Frozzy to see the full results?

-Jam

	18-03-2004 20:46									#292
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If both players wish to, I don't have a problem with it. Or we could use the old you have as many points to distribute as HP left, which makes things quicker, though makes the earlier rounds more important?

	18-03-2004 20:48									#293
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski So, the top 4 is decided for sure, is that what you're saying?

Yes. Frozzy, Ras and Mart have not made the top 4, so who the top 4 is is decided.

quote: Originally posted by Jamski And we have to wait on Frozzy to see the full results?

I am happy to do either. I'll give Frozzy until at least 8:16pm tonight to get his orders in (48 hours), and I'd rather wait until then to post the results of other matches, although if people wish I could post the results of matches not involving Frozzy, or anyone playing him.

	18-03-2004 20:54									#294
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quote: Or we could use the old you have as many points to distribute as HP left, which makes things quicker, though makes the earlier rounds more important?

Although this was faster, it put too much emphasis on dealing massive damage fast, and offered no good come-back chances.

quote: Frozzy, Ras and Mart have not made the top 4, so who the top 4 is is decided.

But we're still in the dark about the remaining 6 players, yes?

-Jam

	18-03-2004 20:54									#295
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quote: Originally posted by Doc Regarding the latter stages, I have a balance suggestion. I think, if the GM and both players agree, that the initial hitpoints could be altered for each matchup. My reasoning is that 2 defensive players can play for a long time and only knock 50 points off each say, whereas 2 attacking players can easily do that in one round.

Is this only to quicken things up? Since I'm the only possible defensive player, is it necessary?

	18-03-2004 20:57									#296
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I need to go to sleep soon, so I'm gonna change my mind and say go ahead and post player results 1-6. I don't want to try to sleep this edgy... (yes, this game has me that worked up!)

	18-03-2004 20:58									#297
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Although this was faster, it put too much emphasis on dealing massive damage fast, and offered no good come-back chances.

True.

quote: Originally posted by Jamski But we're still in the dark about the remaining 6 players, yes?

There are 8 players. I can give you the results for all matches but the last three, since none of those include Frozzy or anyone fighting Frozzy, so cannot influence his orders. You wouldn't know how many points Mart, Rasputin and Frozzy would have, but you would know everyone elses.

	18-03-2004 21:00									#298
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I am very much against the old HP system; Spaced was right, this is more fun.

My point is not really to speed things up (although it could if there were many defensive players), since as Theben says there aren't 2 heavy defence players. It's more to slow down the matches for the attackers. Otherwise I can see both semis and the final being over in less time than it took to do the prelims, and I think that's a waste of the most exciting part of the tourney.

	18-03-2004 21:03									#299
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I agree with Theben's post. If he's going to bed, let him have the results for those now:

code:
		W	A	Damage Done	HP (start/left)	Result
1	Doc	20	0	21	100	
		20	0	22	100	
	Vs	20	0	27	20	KO
						
2	Jamski	10	10	40	100	
		10	10	40	70	
		10	10	0	0	Lose
						
						
1	Doc	20	0	39	100	
		20	0	39	100	
	Vs	20	0	0	50	Win
						
3	Skanky	10	10	10	100	
		10	10	30	90	
		10	10	10	12	Lose
						
						
2	Jamski	10	10	0	100	
		10	10	0	100	
	Vs	10	10	0	100	Win
						
3	Skanky	10	10	0	100	
		10	10	0	91	
		10	10	0	91	Lose
						
						
4	Spaced	15	5	0	100	
		15	5	0	40	
	Vs	15	5	0	24	Lose
						
5	Theben	7	13	16	100	
		7	13	0	38	
		7	13	0	38	Win
						
						
4	Spaced	15	5	10	100	
		15	5	9	61	
	Vs	15	5	9	61	Win
						
6	Captain	12	8	0	100	
		12	8	0	30	
		12	8	0	2	Lose
						
						
5	Theben	7	13	0	100	
		7	13	0	100	
	Vs	7	13	18	76	Win
						
6	Captain	12	8	0	100	
		12	8	0	77	
		12	8	24	59	Lose

	18-03-2004 21:10									#300
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Dammit, dammit, dammit.

-Jam