11-03-2004 18:33									#151
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He's done for the year, a few days in jail maybe, and stiff fines, and then a clean slate for next year.

The game and the league has always had a *nudge nudge wink wink* attitude towards violence on the ice. A guy who steps over the line deserves a very stiff penalty, but don't lynch the guy

	11-03-2004 19:23									#152
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NHL released a statement. Bertuzzi's suspended for the rest of the year, including playoffs, and the Canucks as a team are fined $250k. His status for next year will be re-evaluated at a later date.

	11-03-2004 19:54									#153
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk A talk radio host, who started as a sportscaster, said that "Bert" should be heavily fined, kept out as long as Moore has to stay out (and if it's permanent, so be it), and then serve whatever suspension is handed down. All in addition to the results of any criminal prosecution. I think this is about right.

I agree with this.

	11-03-2004 20:37									#154
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quote: Originally posted by Kontiki .... the Canucks as a team are fined $250k.

Taking into consideration the fact that his intent was to retaliate for the team?

	11-03-2004 20:45									#155
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quote: Originally posted by Richelieu Taking into consideration the fact that his intent was to retaliate for the team?

Dunno. That's just what I read. Probably a safe assumption, though.

	11-03-2004 20:52									#156
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quote: Originally posted by Richelieu Taking into consideration the fact that his intent was to retaliate for the team?

According to this article , yes.

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	11-03-2004 21:36									#157
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This is what Ben calls being bunched from "the side":

	11-03-2004 22:33									#158
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Should have been more... suspend him for at least 10 games next year. *sigh*

	11-03-2004 23:20									#159
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Should have been more... suspend him for at least 10 games next year. *sigh*

Still might happen. The league is to review the case before the start next season (assuming, of course, that there is a next season).

	12-03-2004 00:52									#160
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I doubt he'll be suspended for any stretch of time next season (again, assuming there is one).

But if he ever does bullshit like that again, he'll be banned quicker then you can say "intent to injure."

	12-03-2004 01:00									#161
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Seems fair to me. A rush of blood to the head on Bertuzzi's part, but I don't think he sincerely intended to break Moore's neck, and it looks like he's horrified at what happened.

Considering that Domi got a hefty penalty for elbowing Niedermeyer, who in my opinion deserved it, I suppose this is proportional to the crime.

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quote: NHL released a statement. Bertuzzi's suspended for the rest of the year, including playoffs, and the Canucks as a team are fined $250k. His status for next year will be re-evaluated at a later date.

That's way out of proportion...

Compared to what they have done for stick-swinging.

quote: This is what Ben calls being bunched from "the side":

To be fair that's not my statement, I was quoting someone else.

	12-03-2004 12:05									#163
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I normally don't watch hockey. But from what I can see, it didn't look that bad. What's the big deal?

	12-03-2004 22:43									#164
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quote: The league is to review the case before the start next season (assuming, of course, that there is a next season).

Indeed (assuming there is a next season... I'm very doubtful). But even so, I don't think they'll assess any further penalty.

	12-03-2004 23:51									#165
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The most common legal postition abouts sports violence in USA jurisdition (based much on english common law) is that only that within the rules is mutually consented to and thus exempt from crimminal prosecution; violence against the rules is just as crimminal as if it had not happened within a game. On a practical level, prosecutors rarely bother with it unless serious injury is involved.