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The Templar
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People's Republic of the East Village
Oct 2001
time: 00:34
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Originally posted by Ned
You know Giancarlo, what I find simply amazing is the denial by the left that the attacks, their association with al Qaeda and Spain's involvement in Iraq did not influence the election. They clearly did given the pre-attack polls showing the PP way ahead. |
Again, Georgia 2002. Polls can get it wrong.
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What this shows is that the left is feeling very vulnerable on this issue. |
No Ned, what the left is pissed off about is that your underlying assumption is that somehow the left is ok with terrorism.
**** you.
I live in New York - which actually got attacked. My wife lost two friends. My best friend's brother-in-law went active with the fire dept. the week after 9/11 to a fire house that lost alot of personnel in the attacks. You think I, or any liberal New Yorker, in any way wants to give terrorism a pass? Oh, but voting to the left is somehow equivalent to appeasing terrorists? Sorry, getting a hard-on over bombing people who had nothing to do with the attacks isn't being "tough on terror". The left wants to see this **** end and the right for all their bluster has done nothing.
So enough of this bullshit appeasement meme. In fact, it happened on Aznar's watch so it might just be that his failure tipped the election.
So **** you, **** Fez, and **** all the rest of you who think that liberals are all terrorist appeasers. It's liberals that got attacked. You ****ing hillbillies in the south don't have to worry: the terrorists don't even consider you worth blowing up.
So again, **** you.
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Oncle Boris
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Once in a brown moon
Aug 2001
time: 00:34
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Originally posted by Ned
The Templar, I think the left is blinded by their hatred of Bush so much that they will even cut the legs out from the war on terror if somehow that gets Bush out of office.
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Scenario I: George W. Bush, president of United States, refuses Taliban offer to hand over Bin Laden and replace them with the Northern Alliance, a despised organization that was thrown away by the people of Afghanistan (believe it or not, the Northern Alliance is considered worse than the Taliban).
Same W. Bush attacks Iraq on false premises, perfectly knowing that pictures of dismembered children will inundate Al-Jazeera viewers. Iraq becomes a fiasco, and it is increasingly looking like America will leave it to its fate, though it obviously will build its oil wells.
During this time, he does nothing to resolve the Palestinian conflict.
Muslim fundamentalism rises. Bin Laden gets new recruits and is pleased.
Scenario II: Mr X, liberal president of the United States, accepts Taliban offer to hand over Bin Laden, and announces new humanitarian cooperation project to show his commitement towards building friendly ties.
Meanwhile, he uses his diplomatic force to lead an international initiative towards solving the Palestinian conflict. Recognizing the possible threat Iraq could present, he builds a multilateral coalition determined to enforce the WMD ban against Hussein.
Which one is most likely to help fundamentalist sentiment in the Muslim world? 
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This al Qaeda attack was specifically directed at Spain to fracture the Coalition and to drive Spain out of Iraq.
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No. The effects of the attack were quite unexpected. In most countries (including America), the bombing would have helped the right, not the left.
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