21-03-2004 09:38									#31
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Well,... I sure drank a lt today!

	21-03-2004 09:44									#32
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I'm sorry if you think I'm a jerk.

You and your boyfriend can join the same unit on the buddy system. Just keep the fact that you are gay to yourself and you can spend many nights watching eachothers back.

Of course you can express your opinion freely. I was not saying shut up or anything like that. I'm really sorry you feel that way.

I don't recall anywhere in any oath that I have taken to defend my country any mention of iraqi's or kurds. Not that I don't like them but my concerns focus on the U.S. and not the M.E.. I also feel that if Saddam was so bad the U.S. would not have supplied him with some of the weapons that were used on the Kurds, Iranians, and Iraqi's. That is to say he is no worse than the ones who enabled him in his crimes. He is no worse than many other despots and I do not believe that any nation has the right to decide the destiny of another nation.

My freely expressed view is that anyone who sees the issues in such a clear manner as yourself should be over in Iraq making a difference. Maybe you can take my cousins place.

	21-03-2004 09:48									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Pax Africanus I'm sorry if you think I'm a jerk.

Well I'm not up for surrendering to Al Qaeda, like you.

quote: You and your boyfriend can join the same unit on the buddy system. Just keep the fact that you are gay to yourself and you can spend many nights watching eachothers back.

I'm pretty open about my sexuality.

quote: I don't recall anywhere in any oath that I have taken to defend my country any mention of iraqi's or kurds.

Huh?

quote: Not that I don't like them but my concerns focus on the U.S. and not the M.E.. I also feel that if Saddam was so bad the U.S. would not have supplied him with some of the weapons that were used on the Kurds, Iranians, and Iraqi's.

Russians supplied 90% of the weapons used against the kurds. The chemical weapons discharged from MiGs and Hinds were Russian. Other weapons include French ones.

quote: That is to say he is no worse than the ones who enabled him in his crimes. He is no worse than many other despots and I do not believe that any nation has the right to decide the destiny of another nation.

I disagree. The world's largest nation has the right to remove a dictator.

quote: My freely expressed view is that anyone who sees the issues in such a clear manner as yourself should be over in Iraq making a difference. Maybe you can take my cousins place.

Well I'd also like to take my friend's place there (I have a friend in Najaf, and two others in Baghdad).

	21-03-2004 10:52									#34
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Does anyone find it funny that Fez's post contains an advert for the council of peace.

From their site:

quote: We Hereby Join Together, in Heart, Mind, Action and Energy, as a Council of Peace, to Declare Ourselves for Peace, to Add to the Collective Power for Peace on Earth, to Forswear the Use of Violence, to Support True Collaboration and the Resolution of Conflict through Peaceful Negotiations, Held in Good Faith, without Duplicity, and to Proclaim Our Unity with All Things and Our Support for the Highest Good of All The Council of Peace Condemns the Criminal Abduction of President Jean-Bertrand Aristide The Council of Peace Backs March 20 Global Day of Protest

	21-03-2004 10:59									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Space05us A) its too late to pull out now the sperms are already racing for the egg 2) If we were a pacifist isolationist nation the world would be worse off.

Did you use that numbering scheme on purpose?

	21-03-2004 11:13									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Does anyone find it funny that Fez's post contains an advert for the council of peace. From their site:

I think I am going to throw up.

What is it with these ads?

	21-03-2004 12:09									#37
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quote: Az asked me almost exactly one year ago to qualify my comments that the US had not won and would not win the war in Iraq. At the time I said " Ask me again next year. " When I have more time, I'll respond.

You couldn't find enough time to answer me during an ENTIRE YEAR?

	21-03-2004 12:09									#38
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commies

	21-03-2004 13:50									#39
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commies

	21-03-2004 13:59									#40
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No I did not march with those communist ingrates.

	21-03-2004 14:14									#41
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*Puts Heavy and Happy and Dissident on the list, and puts yet another black mark next to Striker's name.

Commies are people who have some idea of what is actually happening in the world, so I guess that does put us in the minority.

	21-03-2004 14:16									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Commies are people who have some idea of what is actually happening in the world

	21-03-2004 14:22									#43
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quote: Did you use that numbering scheme on purpose?

you noticed?

	21-03-2004 14:24									#44
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Obviously you don't since, you and the other saps were taken in by the phony WMD talk and are currently being duped by the "human rights" backup story.

I suppose that the tories who actually know that the war was simply about money and power can be credited with some knowledge, but you really have to have contempt for the other hopeless losers. At least Rumsfeld and the others aren't stupid - they know they're lying. Although I'm not sure that Bush knows.

	21-03-2004 14:24									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker commies

commies

	21-03-2004 14:25									#46
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Perhaps it's time to start another Lefties war gloating thread.

	21-03-2004 14:26									#47
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quote: I suppose that the tories who actually know that the war was simply about money and power can be credited with some knowledge, but you really have to have contempt for the other hopeless losers.

I thought you knew that the administration was full of neo-cons? And thus their goal is the democracitization of the ME over interest-based (realist) goals of money & power.

	21-03-2004 14:36									#48
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Agathon wants the UN to take over the rebuilding of Iraq.

Great idea. I'd put the LOL smilie here but the idea is so doomed to failure it wouldn't even be funny to put the Iraqi people through it.

Apparently commies are so "in tune with what's happening in the world," that they've forgot to notice the repeated failures of the UN.

	21-03-2004 14:48									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: I suppose that the tories who actually know that the war was simply about money and power can be credited with some knowledge, but you really have to have contempt for the other hopeless losers. I thought you knew that the administration was full of neo-cons? And thus their goal is the democracitization of the ME over interest-based (realist) goals of money & power.

One day you will wake up and realize that while you thought you were living a normal life, you in fact have spent the whole time bending over with your trousers down and a sign saying "Bugger me, I'm a believer".

Everone knows that "conservative" is short for "con-artist".

Ted - blame the failures of the UN on your scum country, which attempts to prevent it doing its job. Count them vetoes and then come back when you actually have something useful to say.

	21-03-2004 15:02									#50
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Neoconservatism must be the most brainless, postmodern ideology in history. I mean the whole thing is so vacuous it's laughable.

Their basic attitude is "let's take a bunch of discredited economic and social ideas, stack 'em together with a mediaeval view of crime and punishment and mix them into a dull porridge of prejudices. And if anyone objects, well there is no truth anymore, so we will substitute conviction - so even if we're arseholes, no-one can prove it."

I overheard some students last term talking about how they should identify themselves politically in another class they were taking. Both thought that they should be neoconservatives, not because they actually believed in any of it, but because they thought it would be advantageous to be thought so.

And so the university disgorges another pair of empty heads....


All conservatism, neo or not, is simply a poor means of rationalizing one's desire to impoverish, rip off and dominate others. It's no different than Protestants trying to convince themselves that poor people deserve it. What's amazing is that some people actually end up believing that crap. I mean.. every child knows it's wrong, but they have it beaten into them enough and they end up believing it.

	21-03-2004 16:18									#51
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oh dear, you go away for 3 months, come back and wow! everything is exactly the same

except that apparently now people at university have to identify themselves politically in a class :/

	21-03-2004 16:26									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Neoconservatism must be the most brainless, postmodern ideology in history. I mean the whole thing is so vacuous it's laughable.

Not so, one might argue that the ideology of the Apple followers is more brainless and vacuous.

Really, though, Agathon...you don't really come off as the enlightened philosophical type when you basically assert all conservatives are morons, period.

If anything, this would seem to help the case against you...

	21-03-2004 16:38									#53
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MarkG is a cruel bastard, no doubt about that.

	21-03-2004 17:23									#54
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quote: I disagree. The world's largest nation has the right to remove a dictator.

Whoa.


Giancarlo is supporting russian imperialism?

	21-03-2004 17:53									#55
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I thought he was supporting Chinese Imperialism.

Anyway, this can't be good.

	21-03-2004 18:17									#56
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Sheesh, how long has Agathon been living in a different plane of reality from the rest of us? Someone should check the padding in his cell.

	21-03-2004 19:21									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Everyone knows that "conservative" is short for "con-artist".

"Everyone" being defined as "everyone intelligent", and "intelligent" being defined as "communist".

	21-03-2004 21:17									#58
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quote: MarkG is a cruel bastard, no doubt about that.

It took awhile, but I think I finally got it.

	21-03-2004 21:26									#59
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He made this one ESPECIALLY for asher. no matter how long the post, and no matter what the topic, THIS is what will show.

	21-03-2004 22:26									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Heavy and Happy No I did not march with those communist ingrates.

Ah, so you marched alone. Good man.