07-05-2000 17:44									#61
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Hear hear, SnowFire.

	07-05-2000 20:01									#62
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all I can say: wow...I'm speechless. Wasn't the 150 limit announced on that news script thingie...blah, blah, blah...Ming, did you really expect that people wouldn't post to your thread even after you said it's not allowed (it's like fobridden fruit, it was probably the woman, called Empress that put all the men up to this...hihihi)...wow

note to self:
would they ban another moderator? hihihi

	08-05-2000 06:43									#63
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heh, I have deleted the first message that was here to post this:

T O P I C R E V I E W
ghen's third DL
3 threads in one, I should be reinstated for this wonderous saving of OT space.

Cybershy: I've taken up temporary residence at ACOL if you wanted to continue any discussions.

Are there any philosophy BB's out there? 'tis the only reason I came to apolyton besides sillyness.

and now: random thoughts

Markos: it's disappointing to see this happening

Most definitely sir, all started from a silly rule that would never have been changed if complaints went through the normal
channels at the apolyton forum.

Ming's holier than thou thread was rediculous. I praise you for the 150 post limit, but please. People want to respond to
threads, not be re-directed to a less populated forum! It was a silly problem that gave serious repercussions. The (4th?)
US amendment says it best... No cruel and unusual punishments. ('cept me, I asked for a banning)

I think the degrigation of the OT started when Taal left, coincidence? I think not


I really like eggs..


Oh yeah, last thought: If any of my other replies are a bit behind that's cause I'm lazy and it took a while to make this
login.
[This message has been edited by ghen's third DL (edited May 07, 2000).]
Probbka
Is this really ghen?
Alexander's Horse
This is getting a bit sad
Caesar the Great
This give's me a great idea for another d/l
ghen's third DL
oops, screwed up on the bold..

Whoever banned this login deleted the thread too Oh well.
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. To Ming a few posts down:
I genuinely didn't like the thread's concept. That is why I continued to make logins while only 300 away from Emporer. (Emperor?) So it wasn't all MattHiggs. I think I speak for a few others as well, its just that I'm the most vocal of the lot. I mean please, Lancer, Cybershy, Nimrod (cough), Empress, MarkL, these people had honorable intentions by posting on that thread. I was stubborn, I know, but it was the only way I thought I could turn your attention to the problem at hand quickly. If my banning was neccessary for this to happen than so be it. The other 3 logins I made were for my own sick sense of humo(u)r, I hope you can forgive me.
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	08-05-2000 06:47									#64
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Down with all that support the mods!!!!!

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	08-05-2000 15:04									#65
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Hey, next time just hack the thread so that it redirects you to the discussion thread!

EDIT: Just happened to bump upon this thread... Hilarious IMHO. Didn't feel the same when it actually happened.
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	08-05-2000 15:14									#66
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Am I back?

	08-05-2000 15:22									#67
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OK so I can post.

Ming was quite right to ban me. I was taking the piss. Thing is I read the thread then Matt's reply and I thought it was hillarious. I mean "Anyone who posts in this thread will be banned"? I have a problem with authority anyway but that's like sticking a big red button on the wall saying do not press this button or the great sign I once saw which said <center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font>Notice: Do not throw stones at this notice
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>

At the end of the day if Ming had said, "You don't need to post in here 'cause I'll bump it from time to time" none of this would have happened. The threat of banning for something that seems, to me, to be so trivial was the thing that started it all. I'm sorry it got so out of hand.

Ps: Much respect for the speed with which you removed my ability to post! I was very impressed. I thought I'd get a few more posts than that in.

Right it's back to ACOL for me to talk to all the refugees we are feeding.

	08-05-2000 15:55									#68
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a reply to adamada(this one is the correct thread ada )
<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font>I dissagree with the bannings made on saterday. I have no serious problem with the 150 limit, but I believe that the 20+ bannings is contridictary to the sprit of apolyton. I understand that the mods/admins have to keep order, but some things are not nessesary. Apolyton should be a fun place, and what happened saterday wasn't the least bit fun. While it might even have been right to ban the first few, when it became a mass mainia, the thread should have been closed. Not doing so is asking for people to post. The problem is as much the mods/admins as it is the posters…
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>so, instead of the posters acting in a responsible way, the admins must make it impossible for them to act in a irresponsible one. excellent....

	08-05-2000 16:08									#69
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I'd say that the admins have a reasonably easy tool at their disposal to stop people posting in a thread which is locking it. Lock it then unlock it to post. That would have been the sensible option.

Out of interest what was the problem with people posting in that thread anyway?

	08-05-2000 16:26									#70
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<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font><font size=1>Originally posted by MikeH on 05-08-2000 07:08 AM</font>
Out of interest what was the problem with people posting in that thread anyway?
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>I thought you read ming's post and understood it fully! anyway, the thread was meant to act only as an announcement of the 150 limit. All discussion was to be made in the thread in the apolyton forum(which was linked from ming's post).

At that time, some people decided to fight for their god-given right to post in the wrong forum...

	08-05-2000 16:42									#71
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Sorry I didn't make myself clear. I knew there was another thread but was it just to make it easier for you to keep track of responses?

You could have posted it, let idiots like me post in that thread if we'd wanted and then left it alone. Then instead of posting the Bump message he was going to be posting anyway Ming could have posted a

"BTW the comments thread for this issue is here..." post

	08-05-2000 17:26									#72
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<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font><font size=1>Originally posted by MikeH on 05-08-2000 07:42 AM</font>
Sorry I didn't make myself clear. I knew there was another thread but was it just to make it easier for you to keep track of responses?
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>no, it was because all decisions around the forums(and especially the ones that affects all forums, not just one) should be posted in the apolyton forum.
<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font>You could have posted it, let idiots like me post in that thread if we'd wanted and then left it alone.
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>and have two discussions on the issue in two forums? what for? just because some people are too bored to go to another forum?

let's see... boredom over order... hmmm...

	08-05-2000 20:14									#73
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The point is you should either allow people to post: Thread open
Or not: Thread closed

Anything in the middle just seems silly.

How long does it take to go Unclose.... bump... close


Not long even with the slowness of Apolyton.

	08-05-2000 20:25									#74
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so leaving it open and asking from people not to post is something that defies the powers of nature...

	09-05-2000 09:00									#75
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Yeah MikeH, in retrospect I see your point.
I was being optimistic that people would actually behave like human beings...

But...
MattHiggs told me on ICQ that he was bored and spent hours on ICQ setting up the
"revolution" His intent was to earn himself the "village idiot" title that he has been
demanding on these forums for awhile. The whole event was orchastrated by him and a
some of his friends. They thought it was a good way to get people to come to the other
forums they all have. I feel sorry for all the people who weren't a part of his scam, and got caught up in it. They were the ones that were hurt... supporting a "cause" that was just a planned attack on the Apolyton Site. There intentions were good, they just got fooled by a bunch of people who had nothing better to do that attack this site.

Yes, I was indeed stubborn, and the people that posted were being stubborn too. I just
wish that they had really understood the "cause" they were supporting... just a simple
spam job on Apolyton, set up by somebody looking to be a called a village idiot... go
figure...


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