07-05-2000 20:41									#1
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The following have been banned from posting for 3 days for posting on the 150 thread despite ming's warning:
cthol, DarthVeda, Boshko, The Brain, legman, Talon2, UEC, Fjorxc, Sir_Crusader, Thucydides, Ghost Ham, Lancer, Jasonian, The Mad Monk, nimrod., empress, atahualpa , cybershy, mark l


the following are banned and get a post count reduction for posting in the same thread and creating a double login. in parentheses are the dl's of each one:
matt higgs(therock, thedick, Doink the clown): 21 days, 30%
fadoba(abobaF): 7 days, 10%
ghen(ghen's philosophical DL, spoon made of silver, ghen's third DL): 24 days, 30%
djugasvili(Fight Like A Brave, Renwaldo84): 17 days, 20%
coug(T-Head, Baruk Khazad): 17 days, 20%
connorkimbo(Lyricist, Renwaldo84, L. Pelagi): 24 days, 30%
giant squid(Moroteuthis Robustis, creation of Renwaldo85, L. Pelagi, Ly-Cilph): 17 days, 20%
technophile(Herr Glockenspiel): 10 days, 10%


the following is banned and gets a post count reduction for creating a double login:
stodlum(MinglenarkosQ,Blitzkrieger): 14 days, 20%

our hope is that everyone now understands that one must:
1) fully read a post of an admin/moderator, especially if it has phrases in CAPITALS
2) post in the right thread and forum, especially if it is specified by an admin/moderator
3) if disabled, and feel like complaining, to do so via mail, not by creating a double login


please discuss the issue only on this thread. dont clutter the OT with unrelated threads


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	07-05-2000 20:44									#2
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all I can say: wow...I'm speechless. Wasn't the 150 limit announced on that news script thingie...blah, blah, blah...Ming, did you really expect that people wouldn't post to your thread even after you said it's not allowed (it's like fobridden fruit, it was probably the woman, called Empress that put all the men up to this...hihihi)...wow
note to self:
would they ban another moderator? hihihi

	08-05-2000 09:10									#3
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I've seen lesser forums sink through less than this. I hope that this won't prove to be the case here.

It has to be asked- was it worth taking such a stance for the sake of a principle? On both sides?

I wouldn't. Then again, I have no principles.

Let's quietly stroll away and forget about it, shall we? Mock-heroic revolutionary posturing over a farrago like this would be very, very silly.

Shall we be nice to each other? (spit).

	08-05-2000 09:18									#4
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Dear, oh, Dear.

Its none of my business but this is plain PETTINESS! (By the way I thought I would write it in capitals to make sure you take heed of my message)

And a post count reduction! Was that added for comedy value?

All I can say is: ROTFLMAO * 50, and come and join ACOL (No moderation) www.planetsid.com

	08-05-2000 09:23									#5
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[quote]<font size=1>Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp on 05-07-2000 12:10 PM</font>
I've seen lesser forums sink through less than this. I hope that this won't prove to be the case here.
[quote]

Oh. . .you must be new. They go through this here about once every six months.

You may as well start a pool as to when the "I'll never post here again"-s come back. I see all the names on the list from last time on the banned list from this 'contreversy.'

You'll also enjoy seeing the various amusing spellings of hypocrite that show up in the next couple weeks.

	08-05-2000 09:50									#6
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Lazurus, I'd immediately start libel proceedings against Mr. DeMobray for the defamation of calling you a newbie...

	07-05-2000 22:24									#7
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Pah. A fly-by-night occasional poster is not worth the wasting of my pet solicitor's time.

	07-05-2000 23:58									#8
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MWHC sits eating hot dogs and drinking beer while watching the hangings.

Even I don't carry that much rope!


The Apolyton gallows http://www.i2k.com/~density/hangman.jpg
from left to right... empress, atahualpa , cybershy, mark l.


Connorkimbo being prepared for hanging http://www.i2k.com/~density/hangme.gif
Is that MarkG or Ming??

<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by My Wife Hates CIV (edited May 07, 2000).]</font>

	08-05-2000 00:03									#9
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I think a warning should have been sufficient for the ones who didn't create double log-ons. I did see Ming's 150+ thread - but didn't read it. I may have posted on a large thread myself out of ignorance.

It is sort of a minor sin, but the punishment isn't too nasty.

Markos/Ming/DanQ - Have you reconfigured the forums so that treads seal themselves after 150 posts? I'm not a very fast typer. If I thought my post would be # 148 in a thread, and 3 others posted while I was typing, would I be punished? Would it show up?

Would a new thread on the same topic be created automatically, with a link to the archived thread? (This would probably be the beat solution, but its probably impossible.)

I do agree that extremely long treads probably are responsable for some of the problems we've had in the past... & I noticed some of the advert. banners have disappeared.

	08-05-2000 00:10									#10
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You know, I think Empress has the honor of being the first female banned in Apolyton history

	08-05-2000 00:15									#11
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Mark G/Ming: This has got to be the most assanine thing I have ever seen. I would like an honest answer to this question. Did you <u>honestly</u> think that telling people not to post in a thread was not begging for it to be spammed, knowing what you know about OT?

	08-05-2000 00:27									#12
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HaHaHaHa
MWHC: It even looks like connor...

BTW, this IS the most assanine thing EVER done by ANYONE.

Always remember 'BLACK SATURDAY'

Don't just remember it. Think about it. Let's not let it happen again.

	08-05-2000 00:41									#13
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From Cthol:

<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font>"Markos if i haven't got a penalty, why am i banned?
-Cthol"
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>

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The names of those banned on Black Saturday: KarstenWilli, Matt Higgs, Jesus Egg that Wept, MikeH, Masterbob, Andz83, Faboba, ghen, Atahualpa, Cybershy, MarkL, Cthol, Djugashvilli, Coug, Nimrod, Empress, RainbowJDS, connorkimbro, Giant Squid, Lyricist, Legman, Moroteuthis Robustis, Herr Glockenspiel, Talon2, Renwaldo84, UEC, Fight Like A Brave, L. Pelagi, Fjorxc, Thucydides, Ghost Ham, Lancer, Jasonian, The Mad Monk, technophile, DarthVeda, Boshko, The Brain.

	08-05-2000 01:01									#14
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Yeah, it is a rather inviting title isn't it: "Dont post here!"

	08-05-2000 01:06									#15
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<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Uncle Sparky on 05-07-2000 03:03 PM</font>
I think a warning should have been sufficient for the ones who didn't create double log-ons.
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>the first 4-5 people were only banned for a day
<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font>Markos/Ming/DanQ - Have you reconfigured the forums so that treads seal themselves after 150 posts? I'm not a very fast typer. If I thought my post would be # 148 in a thread, and 3 others posted while I was typing, would I be punished? Would it show up?
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>1) there is not automated system to close a thread at 150 posts
2) (it goes without saying that) noone will be banned if he posts the 151st post or something like that

cthol's vacation is 3 days btw...

<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by MarkG (edited May 07, 2000).]</font>

	08-05-2000 01:34									#16
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first post updated:
cthol's vacation mentioned
matt higgs went to 3 weeks and 30% for another login he made today

	08-05-2000 04:23									#17
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I wasn't here last night when the it happened. Could someone post a link to the thread in question so that I (and others in my situation) could see it? I'll go check the OT now, but if it was closed then its probably someware on page 2 or 3.

	08-05-2000 05:23									#18
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Sorry. I found it. I'll go find the official thread, and comment there.

	08-05-2000 06:01									#19
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Please do not issue any permanent bans over this

	08-05-2000 06:10									#20
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One thing I love about the OT is that it can be really dull for days and then just blow up in a matter of minutes. Keep up the good work Ming

	08-05-2000 06:42									#21
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I say we BLOW UP Apolyton and not put it back to gether!

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	08-05-2000 06:48									#22
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markos, you missed my 2nd dl, this is my third


edit for later:
Wow, nice pick! thats the one
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	08-05-2000 12:42									#23
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I think that was the most exciting thing that happened here for months! I don't mind getting banned, there still live and some other fora.

What really frightens me is this thread, and that is MarkG's first post. That really sounds like a radio anouncement of the Nazis! What happend to this place?

	08-05-2000 13:29									#24
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how did you want me to sound karsten??


upon further review:


connorkimbo's vacation is reduced to 24 days and 30%. Renwaldo85, L. Pelagi, Ly-Cilph were not created by him, but by Giant Squid. For that GS gets an extra week and 10%. Still, connor used the logins Lyricist, Renwaldo84, L. Pelagi and that's the reason of his vacation


Renwaldo84 was used by djugasvili as well, and he gets an extra week and 10% too

also, I forgot to mention ghen's 2nd dl: spoon made of silver
for that and for the third one, ghen gets 2 more weeks and 20% more(or rather, less)
happy now?

<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by MarkG (edited May 08, 2000).]</font>

	08-05-2000 14:24									#25
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God praise you MarkG! Thanks for reducing connorkimbro's vacation! Thanks again! * Kisses MarkG's butt * Thank you one more time!

	08-05-2000 14:32									#26
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I think it is time we called an amnesty, IMHO, and got things back to normal. We need to have a better rapport with one another and a bit more mutual respect in future. Any suggestions on how to accomplish this? Maybe an all expenses paid holiday to Hawaii for everyone, courtesy of Apolyton, to discuss and get to know one another

	08-05-2000 14:38									#27
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most of the banned will return tomorrow. not a big difference....

	08-05-2000 15:30									#28
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Just like to point out that I was banned on Friday not Saturday. Also I should have been banned and I read the post fully and carefully several times before I posted and had no doubt I would be banned and I was!

Also I posted a bizarre double post with 2 others in between which I think deserves a mention.

I think some people (posters) are taking this too seriously. Moderators can make what rules they want. The people who are banned made their protest to that announcement in that thread in their own way knowing they'd get banned. I don't think they want people campaigning to get them un-banned. Let it go and talk about something more interesting. The point has been made by both sides.

CASE CLOSED?

	08-05-2000 15:48									#29
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since you mentioned the word "rule", a rule was made because requests in previous occasions were ignored. let's not forget this...

	08-05-2000 15:54									#30
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My opinion is that 'rules' be made for as few things as possible and if you can possibly stop people having the option to break them then that's a good idea. People like breaking rules.