28-03-2004 03:33									#1
	Colwyn's update to Nemo's Red Front v1.5 Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

Ok everyone after 1 year of playtesting and development the update to the original RF 1.4 is out at last with special thanks to Agricola

Will you Joseph Stalin be able to lead the Soviet Union to final victory??

This version features new units, a modified map, changes to the tech tree and events and much more (ReadmeRF1-5.txt) for more.

Three reccomended playing levels depending on your RF experience, Marshal, General and Colonel.

Only hints I will give is that:
You must develop the urals to be able to take the war to German soil later in 44/45.
Inland freighters are very usefull esp in winter
AA defences are important.
Offensive attacks must be made in force, build up before you attack or your gains will be lost next turn.
Check civopedia's for unit changes etc
Don't expect to reach berlin until 45.

(Reminder no actions allowed in the phantom June 41 for you, just hit Ctrl+N) it will then take you straight to your turn for July 41.

http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php...redfront1-5.zip

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	28-03-2004 04:54									#2
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Go forth and build up the urals comrades, resources aplenty!

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	28-03-2004 14:01									#3
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I am giving it a go ....

	28-03-2004 15:58									#4
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Can I upload it to the SCS, Colwyn?

	28-03-2004 16:17									#5
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I thought this was going to be a 'patch' to Nemo's scenario, rather than a complete scenario? It's a bit dodgy from a plagiarism point of view.....

	28-03-2004 16:37									#6
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That title gif is good!

"This is Igor calling HQ! I am about be run over by a burning T34!"

	29-03-2004 02:22									#7
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quote: Originally posted by jasev Can I upload it to the SCS, Colwyn?

	29-03-2004 02:45									#8
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quote: Originally posted by fairline I thought this was going to be a 'patch' to Nemo's scenario, rather than a complete scenario? It's a bit dodgy from a plagiarism point of view.....

Not really, so long as it is made clear what nemo did.

	31-03-2004 16:54									#9
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Bugger, just realised I forgot something I have just now updated the zip file with the changes so you can download again or you can make the change yourself.

MV of 3 for both labor/labor brigades in rules 2,4,6,8

	31-03-2004 20:49									#10
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Will have to check this one out when I get home.

	31-03-2004 21:06									#11
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quote: Originally posted by GoPostal Not really, so long as it is made clear what nemo did.

I understand that, Go Postal, but last time I asked this question he said he was going to post a patch only, rather than a complete scenario.

	31-03-2004 21:14									#12
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Colwyn

Appreciate what you have done for us fans of Nemo's Red Front.

It is helpful that all files are together.

The only suggestion I would make would be to place Nemo's name in the title - like this:

Colwyn's update to Nemo's Red Front v1.5.

Or something like that.

Also, it would be great if you could tackle Nemo's Battle of Britain scenario and finish it.

Cheers!

	01-04-2004 02:00									#13
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As a playtester for both RF1.4 and BOB Blitz I can say that finishing The Battle of Britain would require fixing the AI. I believe that being unable to overcome the AI like he did in Red Front was what drove Nemo to give up scenario designing for Civ II. I have not communicated with Nemo since Alex came to visit America a couple of years ago, but believe he would not mind haveing Red Front updated/modified so long as credit is given for his original design work. I am playing 1.5 now and generally like what I see, but only to August of '41 so far.

	01-04-2004 03:50									#14
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quote: Originally posted by High_Flyer Colwyn's update to Nemo's Red Front v1.5. Cheers!

Added to title page of forum.

	01-04-2004 03:52									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Kaptain Ken believe he would not mind haveing Red Front updated/modified so long as credit is given for his original design work. I am playing 1.5 now and generally like what I see, but only to August of '41 so far.

When I first started with RF1.5 years ago I asked him about it and he was ok.

The main thing to note is that the Readme1-5.txt is the original one but with a 1.5 section. So there can be no mistake about the original developer as his name is all over it.

	01-04-2004 08:32									#16
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Colwyn:

To those in the know, there was never a doubt as to your intentions.

It is the highest form of flattery to put in the work you have for Red Front.

This was one of the best Civ II scenarios of all time. And thanks to your efforts, it will continue to be.

Many thanks.

	01-04-2004 15:23									#17
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It was a pity Nemo stopped with BOB.

I wonder what the CIV2 scene would be like if he returned...

Imagine a Nemo scenario collaboration with some of our current mod-makers!

	01-04-2004 23:47									#18
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Curt

Last time I talked with Nemo, he was totally out of Civ, I wonder what it would take to get him back. I should find out if his email address is still active, we should try to get him to consider coming back.

Colwyn

Nice job with v1.5, I am struggling with some big cost increases and less resources and may be losing my first try at this version. BTW 1.5 does not seem to work with FW which earlier versions did, also to get fractional movement I needed the no limits patch, so you might want to mention this somewhere.

	02-04-2004 03:12									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Kaptain Ken BTW 1.5 does not seem to work with FW which earlier versions did, also to get fractional movement I needed the no limits patch, so you might want to mention this somewhere.

Hmm I have the patched FW version to Civ Gold Mutiplayer. If you could post links here to both those files i'll edit the top thread with them.

	02-04-2004 03:31									#20
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If this is the same Nemo, he's into C3 gfx (http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...threadid=111184)

I just checked my unadulterated FW. 172 -> 1 1/3 mf (road bonus = 3) with no problem.

	02-04-2004 03:51									#21
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If I am not mistaken his nick was 'captain nemo'.

	02-04-2004 08:56									#22
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Nope, looks like you're not mistaken.

	02-04-2004 23:30									#23
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Captain Nemo also designed under his real name a long time ago, which I will not post, but MHKN I think were his initials for those of you who go way back.

Boco

Could you get the RF1.5 scenario to run on FW? I got an error message later dated files or some such, so switched to MPG with no problem. On one computer with no limits patch I got correct fractional movement, but on another without move was only 1, is that a glitch on my install or a feature of no limits?

	03-04-2004 03:10									#24
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Oops, I wasn't very clear. I modified the vanilla Rules.txt so that a unit had a mf of 172, then cranked up FW. IIRC, Darthveda's Herbstnebel also used fractional mvt, which worked in my MGE. EA's fractional mvt certainly works with patched ToT. This is all on W98 and WXP.

So my guess is that fractional movement works in all versions of Civ2. Unfortunately, that doesn't help you a bit with your other problems. When I get a chance, I'll try to load it in my MGE, but that might not be until Sunday or later.

Any chance you can reproduce that instance of nonfractional movement? That could be of value to the community.

I have noticed that injured units with odd mf values sometimes get odd apparent mf's during the game, but usually the apparent mf is increased, not decreased.

	05-04-2004 22:52									#25
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Will do some more testing and get back to you.

	07-04-2004 08:05									#26
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Leningrad has fallen! Comrade Stalin has had to give up on the birthplace of the revolution in defence of the black blood(caucauses) needed to keep the soviet union running.

The industrial strength of the CCCP has been evacuated to the Urals and a winter 42/43 plan is underway for a late winter 43 offensive against the overstretched nazis?

Will the SU save the world from the Nazi plan to eliminate 1/3 of the worlds population.

If you are after a 42 start date for this scenario this is a good save to start from.

Summer 42 bat file

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	07-04-2004 08:13									#27
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Will you take the challange of defending the world againts Fasicism??

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	05-05-2004 16:01									#28
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I've just uploaded the scenario to the SCS. Sorry for the delay (a busy month, you know... )

	23-05-2004 00:25									#29
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Looks good (except for my troops falling back in dissarray to the Urals ;-) )

Thanks!

	15-06-2004 07:49									#30
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cant seem to be able to make this game work. I clicked on RedFront.bat and press 1 but it says "Error to open FR.sav for update". Hope some one can help me. Im feel like Im becoming a real ludite