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Jaguar
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Montgomery County, MD
Apr 2000
time: 00:35
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Black and White could have been the greatest game ever. And when you first got it, it looked like it was. But it was released with some really obnoxious bugs, and the AI for the creature wasn't coded well enough; instead of being fun, the creature was often a frustration. Lastly, there were too few worlds in the SP game, and for two of them your creature was annoyingly hindered.
With 18 more months of development time, Black and White would have been right up there with Half-Life, Doom, Civilization, and all those beloved games. The engine was incredibly ahead of its time, the ideas were new and original, there was a lot of GTA-style freedom, and there were a lot of ways to entertain yourself without even trying to win.
Black and White looked like the greatest game of all time when you first played it, but then it turned out to be nothing more than a mirage. 
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actually quake 2 isn't bad and it has better netcode for hpbs than q3. compared to q1/q3 it clearly is not as good but if it was your first major fps online i could see how you'd think it was great. one area q2 dominates q3(but not q1) is in the official q2 ctf because it actually includes hook.  i still can't believe how id left out the grappling hook in the official ctf version and thus now practically no one plays q3 ctf with hook. also if you've played q2 recently it plays much faster because players can now bunny hop similar to q3 but it's better because of the double jump.
i thought black & white was going to be great for the first few hours i played it. slowly i got frustrated playing it then i read some forums and saw that there were only 5 levels and tons of problems(many i'd already found). i barely played after that. i still can't believe they took the one good part of the game away on level 3(?), your creature.
Last edited by pg on 18-04-2004 at 16:15
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Zero
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Bouncing back and forth
Sep 2002
time: 00:35
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Originally posted by Trajanus
I don't like the popular games like Q3, CS etc... It's got a horrible handling.
I will eternally remain faithful to Soldier of Fortune (SoF1). It's not because there are professional players in Q3, UT2k4 etc that these are the only games requiring skill and have competitivite aspects. Actually Q3 is usually about spamming your rockets the right place, and running around like a b**** all the time.
+ it's got loads of cheats. Even with punkbuster or whatever protection Q3 has I can play on the protected servers with aimbot and kick major arse |
Yes Q3 has cheats. so does CS. So does UT. So does SOF. Only reason why you wouldnt be seing alot of cheats for SOF would be if game doesnt demand cheats because of its non-competitve nature.
Thats why you play LAN whenever you wanna play seriously. Or clan games.
YOU NEVER EVER PLAY PUB games
YOU NEVER EVER PLAY PUB games
YOU NEVER EVER PLAY PUB games
unless u wanna kill time. and **** around.
Theres FPS, and theres pub games. Two completely different game, same software.,,,. but two complete different games. seriously.
I wont flame you cause you dont sound like you play Q3 seriously at all, but youre completely wrong. Theres a whole load of difference between just spamming rockets and spamming "smartly". (  )
and its not about just spamming **** all over the screen. in quake, every weapon is theoratically dodgeable, even friggin rails. Practice evasive movements and you can technically be g0ds. Match between 2 inhuman players would be ridiculous if it wasnt for a machine gun, which has instant hitscan.
Another reason why i hate UT:
n00b snipers with that gay ass instant hitscan sniper rifles. tEh whack. If i want to play first spot, first shot gamers, id be playing wussy ass Counter-strike.
I read an article about some gamer complaingin how all the n00b players use sniper guns. Why the **** wouldnt they in UT? instant hitscan, one shot one kill capability and game pace is slow (compared to q3) OMG if u use other weapons ur teh retard....
i havent played sof1 or 2, but i heard game design was pretty rubbish. Fun game, but crappy for any serious play.
Last edited by Zero on 19-04-2004 at 08:11
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Traianvs
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Belgium, land of plenty (corruption)
Jan 2000
time: 06:35
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quote:
Originally posted by Zero
Thats why you play LAN whenever you wanna play seriously. Or clan games.
YOU NEVER EVER PLAY PUB games
YOU NEVER EVER PLAY PUB games
YOU NEVER EVER PLAY PUB games
unless u wanna kill time. and **** around.
Theres FPS, and theres pub games. Two completely different game, same software.,,,. but two complete different games. seriously.
i havent played sof1 or 2, but i heard game design was pretty rubbish. Fun game, but crappy for any serious play. |
I play SoF1 with a ping of 16-30. That's fast enough. LAN won't be any better than that. Even if it is, you won't notice it anyway (not in SoF1 that is). Besides there are only a few games played in LAN: CS, UT, WC3 and some others. Q3 was popular, but nowadays it is hardly played on LANs.
You don't have to think I'm a newbie.. I play in the belgium national team for SoF1 (which is perhaps not a big deal to some of you, but I know how to frag). I'm just trying to say that it might not be as competitive as some of the 'big' games because there are no tournaments with money involved, but nevertheless it requires some skill.
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you are obviously really anti-quake/ut judging from your statements. i just wonder why? other than your emotional tone your arguments don't hold much weight. complaining about cheats is pointless since all games have them(just goto another server) and saying q3 is just about spamming rockets and running around is again a complaint without merit. i could just say all sof1 is sniping and camping - see how ridiculous that is? |
That's where you're wrong, weapon of choice in SoF1 is the shotgun  . It's all about close combat, and making headshots. The early mp was not that great, but the gold patch 'upgraded' the shotgun to a more powerful version, turning it into a totally different game. You don't know what it is untill you'ce played it yourself. I have tried out all the 'big' games, and tbh Q3 is all about spamming the rockets on the right place.
I've seen some real Q3 players in a LAN, 1v1. Basically they do the same thing everytime; rushing for the armour, shooting a rocket in alley #&, shooting another one in alley #2 and at the same time going at 100mph.
Of course I just don't like plasma weapons and 'lag' on weapons (like rockets) so nothing will ever make me like the game 
PS: UT2k4 instagib (or ut2k3) is fun but it's a bit repetitive too, and it involves a lot of camping
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18-04-2004 10:21
you are obviously really anti-quake/ut judging from your statements. i just wonder why? other than your emotional tone your arguments don't hold much weight. complaining about cheats is pointless since all games have them(just goto another server) and saying q3 is just about spamming rockets and running around is again a complaint without merit. i could just say all sof1 is sniping and camping - see how ridiculous that is?
my comments should have had at least an IMHO 
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