05-04-2004 07:33									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Yes, there's a sizable mormon community 'round here.

Ouch!

	05-04-2004 07:40									#32
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state subsidy of religion
state repression of religion

seperation of church and state
freedom of (and against) religion

	05-04-2004 07:56									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon People who believe in Jesus are the enemies of progress, fun, enlightenment, humour and happiness.

This is the only sensible response from

Revrend Dr. Martin Luther King
Dorothey Day
Bishop Desmond Tutu
Cardinal Carlos Belo
Archbishop Oscar Romero

and countless millions of other people whose faith animates their daily lives.

	05-04-2004 08:01									#34
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Poorly constructed troll.

2/10 for the ability to get responses though.

	05-04-2004 08:05									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon People who believe in Jesus are the enemies of progress, fun, enlightenment, humour and happiness.

hmm... Jesus seemed to be an allright guy to me, at least from what I have read about him in the bible.

It was the powers of religion who were the true enemies, just like today.

	05-04-2004 08:07									#36
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quote: Of course, that makes for a less fun OT thread.

Yeah, what are you doing including a well thought out post in the middle of a rant .

	05-04-2004 08:19									#37
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That's what you get when you post here instead of writing your essays. Any guesses on what that does to the essays?

	05-04-2004 08:21									#38
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* DinoDoc considers if he should start comparing Communism the similarities between Communism and religion to point out the irony of this thread

	05-04-2004 08:27									#39
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Indeed DD. Communism is simply the new leftist religion. The new opiate of the masses . Secular humanism didn't do the job, so they had to turn to the cult of Marx. Of course other arose with their own sects of the religion of Communism.

	05-04-2004 08:31									#40
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Religion was an inert fetid mass when first conceived and it remains such to this day. Soon, humanity will clean the chitinous barnacles off her skull and stride forth into the morning breeze with contentment and non-deterministic purpose.

Religion

quote: Originally posted by joncha A much better position, IMO, is to side with religion when it represents the desparate hope of the oppressed, and against it when it is used by the powers-that-be as drug to control the masses.

Eh? Isn't desperate hope the point of the drug?

	05-04-2004 08:33									#41
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I'm all for trouserifying religion.

	05-04-2004 08:33									#42
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quote: Religion was an inert fetid mass when first conceived and it remains such to this day. Soon, humanity will clean the chitinous barnacles off her skull and stride forth into the morning breeze with contentment and non-deterministic purpose.

Marxism was an inert fetid mass when first conceived and it remains such to this day. Soon, humanity will clean the chitinous barnacles off her skull and stride forth into the morning breeze with contentment and non-deterministic purpose.

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Wonderfully easy stuff .

	05-04-2004 08:48									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: Religion was an inert fetid mass when first conceived and it remains such to this day. Soon, humanity will clean the chitinous barnacles off her skull and stride forth into the morning breeze with contentment and non-deterministic purpose. Marxism was an inert fetid mass when first conceived and it remains such to this day. Soon, humanity will clean the chitinous barnacles off her skull and stride forth into the morning breeze with contentment and non-deterministic purpose.

Dude, I am not a commie. Any government that does not incorporate effective elections -- Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Stalinist Russia, Titoist Yugoslavia, Maoist China, Berlusconist Italy, Putinic Russia, Bushist America -- is broken.

Nevertheless, religion is an ichorous cancer on the human spirit. It malevolently simmers in depredation, persecution, and schadenfreude. The antedeluvian evil draws on its last breaths and soon the fire of the malebolgian depths of its putrid wickedness shall blink for one last time and never again reignite.

	05-04-2004 08:49									#44
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Did you recently discover a thesaurus?

	05-04-2004 08:58									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Did you recently discover a thesaurus?

I am attempting to cement my connection with hoi polloi of Apolyton by engaging them in their own lingua franca -- English. There is naught superior approach than by stimulating their cardiac and cerebral complexes with vocabulary that does not contemptuously assume them to be kindergarden intellects.

Agathon has kindly advanced a thesis of some significance and an atmosphere of supreme wisdom and mutual respect suggests itself.

	05-04-2004 09:07									#46
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Did you recently discover a thesaurus? I am attempting to cement my connection with hoi polloi of Apolyton by engaging them in their own lingua franca -- English. There is naught superior approach than by stimulating their cardiac and cerebral complexes with vocabulary that does not contemptuously assume them to be kindergarden intellects. Agathon has kindly advanced a thesis of some significance and an atmosphere of supreme wisdom and mutual respect suggests itself.

I love it when you talk dirty Leo.

I vote yay to religious beliefs. Give it a break Aggie.

	05-04-2004 09:10									#47
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Oh, fine.

Nein, nein, religion.
Ja, ja, freedom.
Nein, nein, religion.
Ja, ja, freedom.
Nein, nein, religion.
Ja, ja, freedom.
Nein, nein, religion.
Ja, ja, freedom.

	05-04-2004 09:22									#48
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I think religion has outlived its usefulness, and that the modern world would be better off if religion disappeared entirely from its face.

However, the idea of going to war against the religious people is despicable. If people want to believe in fairies, let them do. The society should only give the environment for such beliefs not to have any appeal (i.e. a society where science is taught completely secularily at school, and where religions are taught completely secularily as well, just like Greek mythology - I personally really would like to see religions be more covered in history courses, to remove the Greek myhology's monopoly as "beliefs not to be taken seriously")

	05-04-2004 10:00									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Adam Smith This is the only sensible response from Revrend Dr. Martin Luther King Dorothey Day Bishop Desmond Tutu Cardinal Carlos Belo Archbishop Oscar Romero and countless millions of other people whose faith animates their daily lives.

Without religion, you would not have things such as the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Salem Witch Hunt, Islamic extremists and Christian fundamentalists.

On the average, it seems way better to be without religion.

	05-04-2004 10:02									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: Religion was an inert fetid mass when first conceived and it remains such to this day. Soon, humanity will clean the chitinous barnacles off her skull and stride forth into the morning breeze with contentment and non-deterministic purpose. Marxism was an inert fetid mass when first conceived and it remains such to this day. Soon, humanity will clean the chitinous barnacles off her skull and stride forth into the morning breeze with contentment and non-deterministic purpose. -- Wonderfully easy stuff .

Capitalism was an inert fetid mass when first conceived and it remains such to this day. Soon, humanity will clean the chitinous barnacles off her skull and stride forth into the morning breeze with contentment and non-deterministic purpose.

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Quite so.

	05-04-2004 10:04									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor However, the idea of going to war against the religious people is despicable.

I think Aggie is just against religion though, at least in this thread...

	05-04-2004 10:08									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Right, let's **** these ****s. And when they've half recovered from the ****ing, we'll **** them some more! People who believe in Jesus are the enemies of progress, fun, enlightenment, humour and happiness.

Good thing you're not serious with this thread, otherwise I would have to paddle you.

	05-04-2004 10:12									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Without religion, you would not have things such as the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Salem Witch Hunt, Islamic extremists and Christian fundamentalists.

* DinoDoc wonders if he should get into this arguement again since everyone seems to be spouting the same stupid crap he heard over on CGN from ColonyPod

I really enjoyed that thread though but I'd just be repeating the samethings which gets old fast. Decisions, decisions.

	05-04-2004 10:18									#54
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Oh, and just because I disagree with Urban Ranger on this, does not mean that I hate pandas, ok?

	05-04-2004 10:21									#55
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Take your anti-panda fundamentalism elsewhere, ReverendFun!

	05-04-2004 10:21									#56
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It's as good a reason as any to dislike them.

	05-04-2004 10:22									#57
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Religion == believing that human/panda slash fanfiction is 100% true

	05-04-2004 10:27									#58
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Religion is the opiate of the masses- Karl Marx

Revolution is the opiate of the intellectuals- Karl Marx

quote: No to religon, yes to spirituality. There's nothign wrong with contemplating the meaning of life and existence. Just think for yourself when you do it.

Perfectly put Ludd


Religions are for the weak of mind who are unable to deal with the possibility that ther is nothing beyond our little insinificant existence. They are for people who do not wish to think, and wouldd rahter have the answeres spoon fed to them, rather than seek out the truth.

	05-04-2004 10:41									#59
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quote: Originally posted by bipolarbear Revolution is the opiate of the intellectuals- Karl Marx

You will find that is a misattribution.

	05-04-2004 10:44									#60
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No... it was said by Karl W. Marx of Cleveland, Ohio in June, 1983.