20-04-2004 17:12									#121
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quote: Originally posted by Barinthus I've been playtesting all day and the map still needs some more tweaking. This group will make me or break me as a CMN so I want to do a good job .

Don't worry about, it'll take obscene favouritism or serious stupidity before anyone here will disrespect you. I doubt that either will happen so you'll be just fine.

As for making you as a CMN, I think the main thing is how long you've been doing it and how active you are. Ofcourse from what I've observed everyone seems to always have a soft spot for any of their CMNs.

	20-04-2004 19:17									#122
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Thanks for the info on how to disable Empath Guild - I already did it last night. I appericate the thought although.

quote: Originally posted by Kody serious stupidity

That on my part, I'm concerned about ha. I was concerned that you guys might won't like the map I designed.

However, I worked on the map some more and playtested it a bit - I now feel better about it.

I'm pretty much ready to release the game. Unfortunately I'm just about to leave for work so I won't be able to send the first turn until I come back tonight. Alas, I have a commitment after work which means I won't be back until later than my usual time.

Seems you folks are all set, right? If you are, whoever's playing Gaians, keep an eye out for the first turn file by around 10pm (20:00) at GMT -8.

	20-04-2004 20:20									#123
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Who's next on the list? In other words, who should I send the turn to after I play it?

	20-04-2004 20:52									#124
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This is the playin' order (At least, if SMAC version 5.0 has a fixed faction order as well).

HongHu: Gaia's Stepdaughters xxhhu003@mchsi.comxx
GeoModder: Human Hive xxGeoModder@hotmail.comxx
Minute Mirage: University of Planet xxminutemirage@hotmail.comxx
Jamski: Morgan Industries xxj_maunders@yahoo.co.ukxx
Kody: Spartan Federation
Frankychan: Lord's Believers xxfrankychan0112@hotmail.comxx
Hercules: Peacekeeping Forces xxcathal.mullaghan@ntlworld.comxx

Didn't find Kody's email.

	20-04-2004 21:24									#125
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Noticed that we didn't include the reverse engeering bug. A player may not reverse engeer the rover chasis from probe teams before the rover chasis is discovered.

	20-04-2004 21:31									#126
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I think it's funny how certain details keep on popping up .

Reverse engineering - In or Out? You decide.

I take it that submissives are allowed?

Geo is correct, it appears that with SMAC 5.0 the playing order is fixed. However it's possible for me to use SMAX 2.0 to change the playing order but I don't know if there are certain differences regarding balancing issues and bug fixes between SMAC 5.0 and SMAX 2.0.

I don't think I would have to do so but it's possible if I was to go into SMAX 2.0 I might will have to redo the map due not being able to import the scenario.

	20-04-2004 21:44									#127
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Reverse engineering is ok, but reverse engineering rover chasis from probe teams is forbidden.

I believe you are right that submissive pacts are allowed.

And I don't have a problem with the play order myself.

	21-04-2004 00:02									#128
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Good news - you guys don't have to change your alpha.txt file in order to disable getting comlinks from fellow human players.

According to Googlie, I only need to make changes to my own .txt file and the changes will be carried over to you folks via saved gamefile. There's no need to change your .txt nor will they be changed by the game itself.

	21-04-2004 00:39									#129
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Ok! I'm ready to start!

	21-04-2004 20:10									#130
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So, are we lauched yet?

Anyhow here's two more rules.

A player cannot use colony pod to breach the base population limit without appropriate facility being built.

A player can not set the home base (Control-h) for a unit to be the base of another faction when the diplomatic stance is pact so that the unit will require no support from either faction.

	22-04-2004 00:00									#131
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Let's just play PLEASE.

And use the standard PBEM rules as they are in the sticky, ok?

-Jam

	22-04-2004 00:01									#132
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Ah...

The sticky is GONE.

Let's just play anyway PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

-Jam

	22-04-2004 00:04									#133
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Yes, perhaps Barinthus could set up a new turn tracking thread with all the rules we discussed as the first post.

	22-04-2004 00:50									#134
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I think he can's say goodbye to his map.

Barinthus, a free tech from Elevea (well, free...) if you start this PBEM within the next 12 hours

	22-04-2004 01:13									#135
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quote: Originally posted by Barinthus whoever's playing Gaians, keep an eye out for the first turn file by around 10pm (20:00) at GMT -8.

Well I've been keeping an eye out for the first turn file for some time now.

	22-04-2004 02:05									#136
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I've just discovered their are elections held in a certain PBEM which undoubtedly requires his utmost attention.

	22-04-2004 08:33									#137
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:Sigh: I was this close to releasing the game when I came across a glitch. I had the mission year set to 2100 but somehow throughout the editing process, it got changed to 2101. This affects UoP. I seem can't turn the clock back to 2100...

So, Minute Mirage, check your PM asap.

As for last night, sorry - I was occupied with an unexpected guest.

So, Geo, I guess the offer of a free tech is off?

BTW, Jamski, what did u mean by sticky?

	22-04-2004 08:48									#138
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No hurry Barinthus. We were just being mean.

As for the 2101 glitch, I remember hearing this before. Perhaps you could check with Googlie or other people who's been CMN before. I'm sure you are not alone.

	22-04-2004 08:51									#139
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Thanks, HongHu. However I am anxious to get this thing going so I can get some input from you folks on the map itself and so on.

	22-04-2004 10:13									#140
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quote: Originally posted by Barinthus ... I seem can't turn the clock back to 2100...

I cannot do it also. I am very cautious to keep 2100 year during the whole process of scenario creation. Mostly the following problems may occur:

- Faction bonusses are not loaded. Then all factions need reload, there is an option there.

- Difficulty level is not the same for all factions. Need for all faction set difficulty - an option there, and to be sure in scenario rules "force current difficulty level" should be checked for all factions separately

- Initial Economy-Psych-Labs may be 100-0-0 not 50-0-50. Just correction is needed.

- If any replacing of faction units take place - "cover map" is needed to cover previously uncovered tiles.

- Initial technologies are not triggered, e.g. Gaians do not have their Cent. Eco., just need to do it manually.

- Year should be 2100, in this year only "Hold" orders should be given - no base creation, and passwords should be set. Then players may do their 2101 year, and University can choose its free tech - CMN doesn't need to do it. Really I was never succesful in trying to return to 2100 year from 2101. You probably need to reload some old save...

If I remember any other problem I will write

	22-04-2004 11:02									#141
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Mart7x5, appericate your keeping an eye out for me.

- Faction bonusses are not loaded. Then all factions need reload, there is an option there. All are there

- Difficulty level is not the same for all factions. Need for all faction set difficulty - an option there, and to be sure in scenario rules "force current difficulty level" should be checked for all factions separately Should be ok

Initial Economy-Psych-Labs may be 100-0-0 not 50-0-50. Just correction is needed. Yeah I'll have to correct those myself while setting up passwords

If any replacing of faction units take place - "cover map" is needed to cover previously uncovered tiles. Done

Initial technologies are not triggered, e.g. Gaians do not have their Cent. Eco., just need to do it manually. Checked, all are there

Year should be 2100, in this year only "Hold" orders should be given - no base creation, and passwords should be set. Then players may do their 2101 year, and University can choose its free tech - CMN doesn't need to do it. Really I was never succesful in trying to return to 2100 year from 2101. You probably need to reload some old save... Yep that's my problem right now. I don't really want to reload the older version due to tweakings made in between.

Last edited by Barinthus on 22-04-2004 at 11:09

	22-04-2004 14:22									#142
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Note : use [quote] instead of [i] for quotes

As for that sticky... it seems to have disappeared for some reason

-Jam

	22-04-2004 15:10									#143
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quote: Originally posted by Barinthus ... I was concerned that you guys might won't like the map I designed. ...

Rule No. 1 of Roleplaying Games states:
Gamemaster is always right

Rule No. 2:
If Gamemaster is not right, see rule no. 1

	22-04-2004 17:55									#144
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Mart7x5

Jamski, I didn't feel like typing 48 extra letters I would had to if I was to do that quote thing

	22-04-2004 20:19									#145
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You could try [ q ] and [ /q ]. Not sure if it still works any more though.

[Edit] Looks like it works.

	23-04-2004 09:08									#146
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Well, folks, everything seems to have checked out.

I don't know about you guys but I'm excited to launch this PBEM!