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quote: Originally posted by Aqualung71 I was definitely short on workers and pumped several out in my next period of play (although you only seemed to have one more than I did at that time).

Ah, but I had three since before my Granary. That's just under 50% more Worker-turns than you. Plus, my cities are spaced closer together, so it's easier for each to be connected and share improved tiles as neccessary.

	25-04-2004 13:47									#62
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quote: Originally posted by Dominae Ah, but I had three since before my Granary. That's just under 50% more Worker-turns than you. Plus, my cities are spaced closer together, so it's easier for each to be connected and share improved tiles as neccessary.

Well I had one from the start

Ok, ok, you win

	04-05-2004 12:45									#63
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Goethe80,

Try to play my latest game on my Emperor thread. You won't get a better opportunity to use (and abuse) your Berserkers...

	05-05-2004 04:38									#64
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Berserks ROCK!! Thanks for covering for me, Solomonwi.

And yes, they are even better in Armies. Just don't mix'em with Marines.

	06-05-2004 22:19									#65
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I just played my first game as the Scandanavians and the Beserk units are awesome. I usually don't play very militaristic, but these guys demand it. My best use of the Beserkers was to smash coastal cities into rubble. The Byzantines where in first place for the longest time, but then there was this accident. 24 Beserkers landed on their capitol and burned it to the ground. The Beserk Armies were really the key to flattening the Byzantines. A couple of great Wonders were lost in the fire, but the Byzantines slipped into 3rd place and I moved into 1st place, so it was worth it. I reprimanded my troops for burning the place down, but I don't think they understood because Dehli suffered from a similar accident. I'll talk to my men latter and see what the problem is.

	07-05-2004 01:36									#66
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Joe, I found that the Berserks are really incorrigible when it comes to such behavior. In fact, it was so pervasive in my troops that even when my Berserks were all old and retired, my Marines kept the spirit alive by laughingly frolicking in the ruins of several foreign cities. It's hopeless to try to stop them.

	07-05-2004 01:43									#67
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Before this turns into a spam/dead thread, I have another start for you.

It's not a true pump, but you might like to laugh at the surroundings

Attachment: scandi pump, 4000 bc.sav
This has been downloaded 6 time(s).

Last edited by Krill on 07-05-2004 at 11:23

	07-05-2004 01:45									#68
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And a screen shot:

Attachment: scandi pump.jpg
This has been downloaded 55 time(s).

	07-05-2004 02:06									#69
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That looks pretty nice. Having those forrest is so very useful. What is the map size?

	07-05-2004 02:12									#70
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standard, 70% water, middle settings throughout. But I don't know about barbs.

And it is a good starting position, trust me on that.

	07-05-2004 10:37									#71
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Have you already founded the town for us on the starting spot? When I load the file the first town is already there, and the goody hut seems to have given us maps of the region

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Sorry, changed that now.

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Hey Krill,
I've opened up the file and founded the city, but have not gone further than that. No magic 5fpt here, but I've never seen so many 2f2s tiles altogether! Should be interesting for a good set of intital 3-4 cities.

My exams are coming up soon, and I'm seriously bogged down by my books, but all those forests and 2/2 tiles looks tempting for a quick quick archer rush As and when I get to put in some play time of course.

	10-05-2004 18:48									#74
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I'm playing Demigod with Vikings. I have mastered Emperor and after several failed attempts to win at Demigod on Pangea and Continents world, I'm doing archipalego with 80% water.

Germans were on my small island. Unfortunately for them, I got an an iron resource and they did not. Now the island is mine.

Thanks to the Great Library (Why does the AI research Literature last?), I quickly reached the point where I can build Berserks. Gl expired, so, having just stolen Astronomy, I can send my Berserks across the sea to destroy cities.

Question: Should I plan to send several caravels holding only two Berserks each so that I can possibly get a Leader when attacking from the ship -or- should I fill as many berserks as possible on these ships to do maximum damage before the enemy is able to recover?


random observation - Once you rearch MapMaking and can build galleys which can only travel on coast squares - your chances of ending your turn succesfully on sea squares are greatly increased IF you only have ONE active galley in the game. If you already have an active galley somewhere and try end the turn of a second one on sea square - it will almost always crash. If you only have one active galley - it will almost always be safe.

	10-05-2004 19:00									#75
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random answer....get to philosophy and choose MM as your free tech, then build the Great Lighthouse and stop worrying about sea squares. Vikings + Great Lighthouse = what year do I take over the world?

	10-05-2004 20:09									#76
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quote: Originally posted by Aqualung71 random answer....get to philosophy and choose MM as your free tech, then build the Great Lighthouse and stop worrying about sea squares. Vikings + Great Lighthouse = what year do I take over the world?

Okay, you do that on a Demigod game and then post the save for everyone to see as proof.

When all of the AI civs had completed the Ancient era except for Literature, I was only halfway through Ancient techs. They had scooped up all of the Ancient Great Wonders quickly - except for Great Library because none of them researched Literature.

	10-05-2004 21:46									#77
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bfp9000,
i would pack in 3 berzerks per caravel as the additonal berzerk vs. the slim chance of a MGL sounds much better to me. Also, for your initial invasions, your berzerks will at best be vets.

actually, while i don't have much experience at demi-g, i wouldn't say it's impossible to snag the Lighthouse even at demi. If you check out MS's game on the Sid thread, you'll see that he managed to snag a large number of wonders even on that. Besides, if you race for the philo free-tech bonus, you'd be quite ahead of the others in getting MM.
That siad, I'm still struggling to win consistently with the Scandi's on Emp, so perhaps you could post a few of your saves?

	11-05-2004 15:17									#78
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quote: Originally posted by bfg9000 Question: Should I plan to send several caravels holding only two Berserks each so that I can possibly get a Leader when attacking from the ship -or- should I fill as many berserks as possible on these ships to do maximum damage before the enemy is able to recover?

Pack 3 Berserkers per Caravel, 2 Caravels per city under 6, 3 for bigger cities.
If you get a Leader, sacrifice a Berserker. Send him on a pillaging suicide mission, it's part of their training and a Valkyrie will surely find him...