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Ljube is offline Ljube
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Who was the other mafia?

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*sigh* I guess I can come out in the open now... enough mucking about, pretending to be grasping straws like a drowning man.

I was Mafia number one. The method was my own invention, by the way. Jamski came up with the word "superannuation" though.

On the first round I, by happenstance, murdered the first second Mafia, Tuberski. Jamski replaced him with Urban Ranger, who you went and executed the next round. Jamski told me this when I was the only Mafia left, much to my merriment. So my lucky streak did come back to me after failing me in the end of Gothica.

After that, I played you lot like an instrument. Too bad I didn't ponder my final kill better and off Theben instead, after all Theben was quite obviously innocent what with being quiet for almost a week. I guess I thought nobody'd notice (Jonny didn't, at least at first) and ADG would think he was trying to quiet Jonny, since Jonny was potentially going to vote Thubbuns. I was more interested in making the game go smoother than actually winning, and this was my reward.

Then again, I did purposefully not kill inactive people since, after all, a vote not cast is a vote not cast for yourself. In any case, this gave a lot of insight to the way a Mafia might or would think, my first time at it as it was, so unless you exterminate me to exact vengeance in the beginning of Mafia XVi, I'll be able to determine who it is as well if not better than ljcvetko.

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Hmm didn't think it was you. Good game

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Nice finish.

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It surprises me how we never manage to get the Mafia until the final few rounds, or not at all. How can it be so difficult? I thought all the time that I had the scent of Mafia or something, and was sure for the first four rounds that I was going to get executed any time now. One would imagine that simple and pure chance would allow us to take out the Mafias early on every once in a while.

By the way, when I told Jamski my preferred methods of murdering before the game started, I said "an alien aging device I've acquired during my travels". Skanky was first to spot that out, drove me nuts trying to deflect that one.

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You weren't the only one with a Mafia scent. I suspected UR immediately, but you flew under my radar, well played

And congratulations to the survivors, Theben and ADG!

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If the clues aren't blatant (and they aren't) with 2 mafias the chances of 1 surviving to the last few rounds is higher than you think.

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Here's the PM verbatim:

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Spacing (throwing out of an airlock) would be rather nifty, but on a starship something like that would be both detectable and clunky to carry out. If you can write it in in a manner that fits the story backdrop, I'd prefer that.

Otherwise, I think I'll go with an exotic alien phaser (or a Federation prototype weapon) I've acquired during my travels that somehow dislocates the victim in the space-time continuum so that they age hundreds of years in a matter of seconds.


So now you know where he got the execution method from, too.

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Now is the time to publish the list of innocent people. I identified very early on that based on post stats rah, Zopperoni, Jonny, ADG and very likely Frozzy were innocent. Instead of publishing this, I informed a selected number of innocent people (rah, Zopperoni and ADG). Rah went berserk and I had to eliminate him in fear he would kill another innocent before the proper time.

During the game the innocence of Theben was confirmed, but until the last round I didn't really have a clear situation regarding post stats.

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If the clues aren't blatant (and they aren't) with 2 mafias the chances of 1 surviving to the last few rounds is higher than you think.


Certainly if new ones get appointed.

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If the clues aren't blatant (and they aren't) with 2 mafias the chances of 1 surviving to the last few rounds is higher than you think.


Yes, but still, it somehow baffles me that we haven't had any luck yet. Well, maybe next time.

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*sigh* I guess I can come out in the open now... enough mucking about, pretending to be grasping straws like a drowning man.

I was Mafia number one. The method was my own invention, by the way. Jamski came up with the word "superannuation" though.

On the first round I, by happenstance, murdered the first second Mafia, Tuberski. Jamski replaced him with Urban Ranger, who you went and executed the next round. Jamski told me this when I was the only Mafia left, much to my merriment. So my lucky streak did come back to me after failing me in the end of Gothica.

After that, I played you lot like an instrument. Too bad I didn't ponder my final kill better and off Theben instead, after all Theben was quite obviously innocent what with being quiet for almost a week. I guess I thought nobody'd notice (Jonny didn't, at least at first) and ADG would think he was trying to quiet Jonny, since Jonny was potentially going to vote Thubbuns. I was more interested in making the game go smoother than actually winning, and this was my reward.

Then again, I did purposefully not kill inactive people since, after all, a vote not cast is a vote not cast for yourself. In any case, this gave a lot of insight to the way a Mafia might or would think, my first time at it as it was, so unless you exterminate me to exact vengeance in the beginning of Mafia XVi, I'll be able to determine who it is as well if not better than ljcvetko.


Very graceful indeed

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Ah... that's how it works!?! I just thought it was random... sometimes it showed... sometimes it didn't


AFAIK as long as no one else looks(opens the) at the thread, no footer shows up.

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Yes, but still, it somehow baffles me that we haven't had any luck yet. Well, maybe next time.


The problem is with the false clues (herrings). You never know until very late which clues are real. The breaker was the shuttle accident.

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The shuttle accident? That was hardly a clue to incriminate me, on the contrary. Who would want to vote off the loved Kassiopeia who managed to rid us of such a huge pain in the a...ft section?

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I was annoyance only to mafia

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Wow a good game Kass! I have always thought that you were suspicious throughout the games when both you and me were in so I just couldn't really suspect you this time.

And congratulations to Theben and ADG!

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I was annoyance only to mafia


Nah you were only slightly annoying because you always claim you know what's going on while you haven't the slightest idea.

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Sorry I had to waste you HongHu

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Well played Kass. I figuered once I became well-aged, that it was someone I had punctured in the last game, didn't suspect you at all until the great hologram spelled out his reasoning.

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gjramsey, when you have 10+ people to pick from, singling someone out like that is just stupid. There's always the risk of someone making the connection, and even though it may be a red herring, it's still enough to release a docpile on the hapless victim.

What's curious is that I'm somehow invincible until the final rounds. I'm usually killed by the villagers, not by the Mafia, and if by the Mafia, then it's the final few rounds. That or I'm the Mafia myself.

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What's curious is that I'm somehow invincible until the final rounds. I'm usually killed by the villagers, not by the Mafia, and if by the Mafia, then it's the final few rounds. That or I'm the Mafia myself.


I don't think you will be now that you have said that.

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Sorry I had to waste you HongHu


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Weeee...


Well played Kassi

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*After the death of Kassi, Theben tracks down the bodies of those floating in space, by use of the implanted location finders in all Federation personnel's left buttcheek. After locating HongHu (she absorbed Ghengis's finder), it is discovered that her species can survive hard vacuum by forming a cacoon. After an hour back aboard, HongHu returns to consciousness.

She smiles. "Thank you for saving me!"

* Theben hands her the superannuator that Kassi used to kill the crew

"Take this back to your Empire. It should not be left in the hands of the Federation."

"You show some marked intellect, for a human."

"ADG, stay with the ship. Report what has occurred to the rescue team. They should be here in a few days."

"Where are you going, sir? Shouldn't you stay with the ship?" ADG asked.

"Spiffor is dead. Someone needs to meet with representatives of the HongHu Empire, at least to delay negotiations. The council meets in a few days. Unfortunately, I'm the only Federation officer who can get there in time."

"I would be honored if you joined me, Theben." HongHu replied. "Oh, and sorry about that whole 'you're the killer' bit."

* Theben laughs
"I've killed my share of people... it's my job. I've always been fascinated by stories of the Empire, I'd like to see how many are true."

Just now everyone noticed the hologram of ljcvetko. "How DARE you give such technology away, though I deduced, through careful personality analysis, that you'd do just that! You'll be a traitor to the Federation! I'll have you courtmartialed!!!"

"Speaking of killing...", Theben mutters, as he points at the hologram contor center.

* Theben sets his phaser to indiscriminate warfare

"'Greatest detective of all time', my ass..."

"Wait, what are you... NNOOOOOOOOOOO..."

BOOOM!!!!

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And so, this is the last thing that was left of the greatest detective Lt. Commander Lj Cvetko - a flatline on the screen of one of Jamski2000's displays.

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I'll make sure they roll out the red carpet for you there Theben.

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@ lj-tko.

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Hmm, boldly taking geekiness to where no one has taken it before, are we??



* groans *

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Sorry for my family

I was forced to cycle 60 km today over the Schwäbian Alps and drink coffee.

Same tommorrow etc...

Yes, Kassi was indeed the killer, and everytjing happened as described in his post. Check out the clues

Good game, I thought

-Jam

 
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