06-05-2004 14:41									#91
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wel lthe units we built were t o use agaisnt the vikings, whilst you built few and benifited from our attacks...

perhaps i see now how you repaed so much for so little outlay....


hmmm next game i wil lbe wiser, but oh well i learn a littel each day...

	06-05-2004 14:56									#92
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Was smarter for your armies to carry the fight as you had iron and I did not. The Vikings were distracted by the Russian horsmen long enough for you to get to Knights and Midieval Infantry to crush them with.

Also do not forget that we have been trading science as well using my civilizations better science rating while your access to resources of iron carried the fight.

If not exchangeing both techs, luxuries, and troops to fight we both would not be in such a good spot.

Your conquested Viking cities only need to grow to above size 6 each and then you get extra free support units. That combined with a change in Government when we reach democracy will benefit us both.

Also we have cornered the market on Furs it appears for me and on dyes it appears for you. Later after the others switch to Republics and Democracies these extra luxuries can be sold for high profits each 20 turns renegotiating the price higher for the others to have access.

	06-05-2004 15:38									#93
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this al laboive and beyond what i know,...

i just usily build citys , expand ahve wars etc... never looked a tlong term goals of how to make moeny or stuff...


oh turns sent ... we met everyone


strange map in tha *** put the two humans on a island with one other civ, and surrounded by so much sea that galleys can not cross safely, never seen it before....

	06-05-2004 15:55									#94
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For money marketplaces first then banks. Do not have the banking tech just yet but right around the corner. Build the marketplaces in your larger cities and I bet you can get to 5.5.0 instead of 3.7.0.
You want to get the first number as high as you can for the science race.

	07-05-2004 09:49									#95
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i am on 3.3 ...... what it the last 0 for ??? i stil lnot got that figured out

	07-05-2004 18:15									#96
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It goes first numer egualsthe science rate, second number is the tax rate, thrid number is the luxuries rate.

All these are percentages that the commerce points are split in between for each city.

	09-05-2004 07:18									#97
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turns sent...

Aussies not got much to do, being slaughtered by Vikings in east now. More Knights enroute.

in the DyP more explroign being done..


Now back to those numbers...

So if my numbers are 3.4.3 ... howe do i adjust my tax rate...

I see sliders for adjusting my science rate between 1 and 10 and a slider for adjusting my Lux from 1 to 10 .. does this mean i cna have 10.10.10

jasut cant find the tax slider?????????

	09-05-2004 14:34									#98
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OK a litle more specfic/ The numbers 5.5.0 means 50% science and 50% taxes and 0% Luxuries.

Each city gathers all the commerce from it's worked tiles and then divides them up into this ratio. So commerce is actually used for three things that you set ahead of time for all your cities to spend.

Taxes are not a set rate but rather what ever is left over after you have decided to do research or to provide more luxuries for you citizens.

They all three combined alsways equal 100%. No more no less.

Balancing these three settings is one of the more intricate things in Civ.

Hope that helps you out in understanding what is happening??

	10-05-2004 11:33									#99
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Aftre turn 195 sent.

The Russians are enjoying the new found peace. We are building our infrasructure slowy and will soon have to lower our science rate some until the settlers can be moved off the main contentent.

DyP

The Texas Rangers discovered Warrior Code in a small village.

The Armitage clan finally found some fruit but is a long way away. Perhaps crops will grow close to the city.

	10-05-2004 14:05									#100
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quote: Originally posted by Awsric Armitage OK a litle more specfic/ The numbers 5.5.0 means 50% science and 50% taxes and 0% Luxuries. Each city gathers all the commerce from it's worked tiles and then divides them up into this ratio. So commerce is actually used for three things that you set ahead of time for all your cities to spend. Taxes are not a set rate but rather what ever is left over after you have decided to do research or to provide more luxuries for you citizens. They all three combined alsways equal 100%. No more no less. Balancing these three settings is one of the more intricate things in Civ. Hope that helps you out in understanding what is happening??

so how do i balance them if my sliders allow me to have 10 and 10 on both of them.

i know civ2 had 3 sliders that had to ad up to 100% but seems in civ3 you can have 200%

	10-05-2004 22:31									#101
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Nope. It is still the same as Civ 2 and Civ with the 100% for all ratings in the Domestic advisor or F1 key screen. Just click the top science slider bar to increase or decrease it accordingly. IIRC the luxuries slider stays locked at 0% until you manually increase it or decrease it by any amount. Any changes in either the science or the luxuries slider settings reduces your taxes first before the other slider. They still reamin at 100% total for all three sliders together.

I actual;y rarely use the luxuries slider at all unless I really need to in the late Ancient Era and early Middle Ages Era in order to switch to the Republic. Usually switching to the Republic as early as possible is a good idea. Unless you are involved in many early wars and need the higher troop maintenence and military police happiness from Monarchy which would be better for a wartime posture. Monarchy does not give you the extra commerce bonus that the Republic and Democracy do however so the troop maintenance costs are somtimes paid for just by the increased commerce output alone. Every tile producing a point of commerce under Monarchy or Despotism gets a bonus one point under the Republic and the maximum xcience settings allowed is increased to speed potential research growth.

Switching into the better science minded governments is another very complicated but exxentia part of becoming a better Civ player. Understanding when and how to prepare for the switches in government can be cery challenging as the game situations are very fluid and changing constantly. Typically the more advances forms of government limit your war time abilities with war weariness so you must plan your offesive war operations before declaring war in order to end the wars quickly and decisively.

More advice to come if you want it after the turns are returned or if you have more specific questions feel free to ask them while we are playing. As allies we are trying to help each other as much as possible inthis game situation anyways and I see no reason to change that asit is a gppd opportunity to ask questions that we can discuss as we play and show in-game examples to illustrate the finer points.

I do not mind and hopefully it will enable you to enjoy some of the more intricate points of the game rather than be confused or frustrated by them. Better to actually enjoy them I think.

	11-05-2004 10:05									#102
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i guess that as good as it gets...

Aussies struggling to beat spearmen now in last remiaining viking city.. its almsot like they suddnely got very strong...

many aussue kive slost i nthis final battle...

Nothing else done as we cxant get off the island....

	11-05-2004 10:05									#103
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DyP ...

Both nations still exploring, no huts around, very slow as no settelrs .....

	11-05-2004 18:07									#104
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After turn 196 sent.

The Russian have switched there two largest cities over to producing wealth in order to keep money coming into the empire. Still with these two cities producing wealth the treasury is slowly being depleted turn after turn.

After scanning the empire several smaller cities that only support 1 or 2 units will soon grow into supporting more units for free when they reach size 7. This will make the drain disappear from the treasury when the cities grow and can better support their garrisons with out help from the Imperial treasury.

The Russians also have lined up three or four settlers to cross the ocean and settle the open areas left on the southern tip of the Persian's and Iroquois continent. The galleys that were heading north to reinforce the now almost extint Viking empire are heading back south to pick-up these settlers after converting themselves into Caravels after Navigation is discovered soon. That is if we can get enough gold saved by then to buy the ship upgrades.

DyP

The Texans are growing at a nice pace with a size 3 Austin beginning to build its first Clan after another defending Tribal Spearman. The 2 Texas Rangers continue to scour the countryside searching for new tribes and knowledge for the growing Texans.

The Armitage clan is slowly approaching Farming and will be able to grow faster after it is researched.

	14-05-2004 12:39									#105
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turn 197 finally sent on ...

ausseis basically on hold, no plans nothing, we fianly destryoed the vikings...

	14-05-2004 12:44									#106
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DyP slowly progressing, exploring. citys growing slowly

	14-05-2004 14:30									#107
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After turn 197 sent.

The Russians are facing a financial crises until the new cities are formed across the ocean. Either the settlers have to be transported or rejoin existing cities as productive laborers.

DyP

The Texas Rangers are revealing more of the surrounding areas including a samll penninsula that might connect two oceans if we place a canal city there. There is a perfect spot on a hill with 2 rice patties and 2 fisheries nearby.

The Armitages are closeing slowly in on the Farming advance.

	14-05-2004 19:13									#108
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aussies bored so we braving the oceans again, worst case scenario we get 3 extra gold when our ship sinks with its cargoe

best case is that we get across to start some action !!!!

other than that we still studying the saving of money (banking) bout 11 turns away i think ...

	14-05-2004 19:14									#109
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DyP...

Exploration still continuiong ..

What is this slave camp thingy my people want t obuild ???

	15-05-2004 09:05									#110
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I thought the Russians were researching Banking and democracy after that but will chaeck on my next turn. Pretty sure the Russians are researching Banking right now so might be better for the Aussies to switch to another topic to not waste our combined efforts if we are still sharing information.

The Slave trade small wonder is quick and allows the slave trade large wonder. The large wonder causes unhappiness by one point in all cities but increases production by 25% IIRC. Check the Civilopedia when you get your next DyP turn for details.

	15-05-2004 10:38									#111
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cant change now wil lcause wastage anyway... i thought you were targeting the bottom line and me the top lines... i getting confused if you have switched...

	15-05-2004 10:55									#112
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both turns sent ...

	18-05-2004 04:53									#113
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are you ok AA ????







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	18-05-2004 10:50									#114
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Yes, thought I had played and sent. Let me check and resend if necessary.

	18-05-2004 11:02									#115
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thanks, i tohught i was waiting on you.... hope it not me holding up

	18-05-2004 11:08									#116
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yeah after Dyp 24 and after turn 198..whoa it's that many???? were the last played and sent. Let me know if you need a resend. Hitting the sack here really quick because I got the job I was interviewing for and have a long training day tomorrow.

Thanks for the concern though. Shows someone cares, sniff, sniff.

	18-05-2004 11:27									#117
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well been playin gso long regard you a s afriend !!!

will check my emails at home .... hope you get the job ...

	18-05-2004 16:13									#118
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got error sending to your mail address...

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	18-05-2004 16:14									#119
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and the DyP game...

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	19-05-2004 15:48									#120
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Got the job just training on all the required systems and software etc.

After turn 199 Sent.

The Russians are switching most cities over to wealth as they complete their Universities. As soon as Banking is researched in 2 turns then we will research Democracy while our larger cities build banks. Hopefully with the additional gold the banks will make the transition into a Democratic government more stable and profitable.

DyP

The Texas Rangers entered a new village in the North and they shared their maps with us. The southern Texas Rangers scouted out the other side of the penninsula that looks like it might broaden out into another continent. Maybe but too early to tell for sure.

The Armitages scout got lucky and found a tribe that wanted to join us as a new clan. We immediately settled the land the clan was found on and hope that when Farming is discovered in 2 turns then we will get some better food sources.