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Hercules is offline Hercules
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in Tir Na Og
Sep 2002
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Not so hasty there. Can I interest you guys in some futures or lack of them

FlameFlash is offline FlameFlash
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Googlie is offline Googlie
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......... and GooglieGod, whose name is Energy smiled beatifically at Morgan, and took human form and deigned to join the budding capitalistic empire ............

Impaler[WrG] is offline Impaler[WrG]
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Cheif Manufacturing Officer of Morgan Industires
May 2002
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And the Googlie Bone is connected to the .....


Congradulations on your wise investment in MorgaCorp

Impaler[WrG] is offline Impaler[WrG]
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May 2002
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Seeing as we have a small Core of skilled Investors now and that oposing Fations are begining to ramp up recuritment it would be prudent to begin organizing a recruitment effort of ourown. In addition we should further elaborate on how we will run and Role Play MorgaCorp.

My sugjestion is to use some system inwhich all the team members "own" MorgaCorp stocks and the more of it they own the more "votes" they possess on the games issues. Each person would get 10 Shares for joining and shares would never be split.

We might also alow players to own Bases with their shares of stock and deside that bases production (with some limitations ofcorse) the players who grow their bases (and make the most energy Credits from thouse bases) would get rewarded with more power and more bases. Atfirst we would all own a % of the first base and then as we expand we "sell" the new bases to Entrapranurial members who start managing them.

Units would be sold between bases or "rented" (not rehomed) and one person could say make a Contract with a nearby base to have BoreHole Built within their bases radius.

External Affairs and Faction wide ishues would be desided by an executive board meeting and Vote based on shares of stock. The CEO will play the turn and naturaly own the most stock (perhaps winning the election grants that player some kind of Stock Option).

Our over all Play style would ofcorse be Strongly oriented towards Building and I would want to get into as many trade treateies and Pacts as possible with all Human and AI Factions. Victory would be sought primarily through Economic Victory and Transendence/Diplomatic secondarily.

Googlie is offline Googlie
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Imp:

Great ideas. As befits entrepreneurs and capitalists, I think the idea of having team members "manage" particular bases has a lot of appeal - after all, Morgan abhors a Planned economy.

Hmnm - a "stock option" plan based on shareholder value (total AC score, maybe?). Original team members get "founder options" and subsequent joiners get slightly fewer, declining in # as the game progresses. Base Governors (Managing Directors?) get to keep x% of the credits they generate at their base (needed to "buy" other services such as terraforming, or defenses), as well as exercising their stock options

I could see a base producing mainly formers, say (Morgan Construction?) and terraforming other bases' tiles at maybe a 5 ec credit per terraformed tile. Another base is the Super Science City, getting a credit or 2 every turn from the others, while a third base builds a Command Center and a Biocenter and churns out veteran troops for rent to other bases

Until clean reactors, a base could build an aerospace (and prolly a punishment sphere, if bombers were being built) and home the airforce there. Similarly with the navy. And they'd get a credit or 2 per turn as 'protection money" for defending other researching/producing bases

Big items, like SP's - that call for crawlers and upgrades - would be by Board decision as they'd involve an effort by multiple bases

Voting shares could be allocated based on each bases contribution of the 3 necessities (so that a base going a few turns at stockpile energy would still be massively contributing to overall financial health

And although Morgan can't run a Planned economy, some advance planning would need to be done at the exec level for base placement issues, tech tree choices, etc etc

And until 'Poly creates the new forums we prolly need our own pre-planning one to get serious discussions going - I'll see what I can set up for this. Also this style of base management/ec credits would prolly need an XL spreadsheet to track - I'll have a go at this too as a first draft

G.

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Satyagraha is offline Satyagraha
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Mar 2004
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damnit, can´t the drones work faster to get my penthouse up? we should have them nervestampled, all of them! god, what an ugly, awful planet this is! get the whores and my concaine over here, i need some entertainment!

edit: consider me signed up

Snowflake is offline Snowflake
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Apr 2003
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Shares ... Mmmm Sounds like fun.

Chaunk is offline Chaunk
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CEO of Morgan Industries, ACDG3
Apr 2002
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[Idea's snipped.]

We need a private forum

C

Chaunk is offline Chaunk
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CEO of Morgan Industries, ACDG3
Apr 2002
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Well in that case...

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I think we should definatly blah blah blah yada yada yada

don't you think?


C

Chaunk is offline Chaunk
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CEO of Morgan Industries, ACDG3
Apr 2002
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Chaunk is offline Chaunk
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CEO of Morgan Industries, ACDG3
Apr 2002
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I'd prefer us to function as a really big bank for ourselves. Other people I see as distinctly secondary to morgan, except where they lead to more money.

C

Vander is offline Vander
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May 2003
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[Murmering something along the lines of "PRAVDA stolen from me...", Former Comrade Vander wanders in to the underconstruction boardroom]

I'd like to cast my lot with this burgioning capitalist empire. I could always be editor in Cheif of Morgan News Network. I like that sort of stuff.
Besides, I'm already reading "The Wealth of Nations"

Chaunk is offline Chaunk
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CEO of Morgan Industries, ACDG3
Apr 2002
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Vander, Satyagraha, Googlie, welcome! I, Mr Chaunk, am the self appointed doorman here, and I welcome you to Mr Morgans great Monarary domain with open arms. I do hope you find everything satisfying and perhaps even exciting. Please don't hesitate to contact us with any queries/comments or even problems!

And Mr Tassadar, we await your decision with baited breath! The life of poverty with the other factions might appeal to you, but we feel that wealth is always better than a poke in the eye with a dirty stick (a.k.a. Spartan training routines) anarchic pettiness and confusion, or even being forced to live in the dirt.

Morgan Central is still open for more investment of course! The more the merrier (and the more profitable too!)

C

Chaunk is offline Chaunk
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CEO of Morgan Industries, ACDG3
Apr 2002
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I think Morgan believes in the people more than you might initially put him down for. One of Hydro's fantastic PBEM story threads has an excellent view of Morgan IIRC. I'll try and dig up a link for you Tass.

Edit: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...556#post2367556 at the bottome of this post is the particullar bit I was thinking of, where the manager deals with the revolting people, although the whole thread is an excellent picture of Morgan IMHO. Morgan always looks after his people (Hence the hab limits at 4) otherwise he wouldn't have anyone to power his monetary mecca.

Also, if you look at the first post in the thread, Mr Chaunk was/is a janitor yet living a life of luxury. Hard working, yet still luxurious.

My two cents anyway.

C

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Maniac is offline Maniac
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Gent, Belgium
Jul 1999
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But I am a peaceful person.

Then join the Gaians.
quote:
I believe in industrailisation.

Then join Morgan.
quote:
I believe in government.

Then join the Spartans.

Still lots of choices if you look at it from the other side.

Chaunk is offline Chaunk
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CEO of Morgan Industries, ACDG3
Apr 2002
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Ideally though, there should be someone who fulfills all of those qualities. I think Morgan does, but perhaps not.

C

Micha is offline Micha

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Technical University of Ilmenau, Germany
Oct 2002
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"The secret of growing wealth is the immediate reinvestion of every single cent."

That said, sign me up!

As a student of economics I can´t help joining this wonderful faction... Let´s see what we can turn into money. I heard the local fauna was a good source of bio-energy...

Satyagraha is offline Satyagraha
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Mar 2004
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Chaunk is offline Chaunk
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CEO of Morgan Industries, ACDG3
Apr 2002
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Welcome Micha & Comrade Tassadar! May your investment always be profitable and your risk always successful. I point you towards our hospitality sector and hope you enjoy your accomodation (and perks!).

On a side note, we now have 8 people signed up, so let the party begin! Yay!

C

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Technical University of Ilmenau, Germany
Oct 2002
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With Googlie, Tass and possibly Jam within our ranks, I cannot but think the other factions have already failed...

Strange, but this team looks quite similar to the Hive team...?

Micha is offline Micha

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Technical University of Ilmenau, Germany
Oct 2002
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Shares ... Mmmm Sounds like fun.

So you join us?

Skanky Burns is offline Skanky Burns
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Skanky Bastard Quartermaster
Aug 2001
time: 14:35
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Jam seems to be leading the Spartans, [roleplay]so I don't believe he will joing you capitalist pigdogs.
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Micha is offline Micha

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Technical University of Ilmenau, Germany
Oct 2002
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Yeah, I just figured it out... Just from what he said here, it seemed obvious that he wanted to join.

[roleplay]Maybe you should question his dedication to the Spartan Federation... He admitted the Spartans were the worst faction he ever played... [/roleplay]

I guess I also misunderstood HongHu´s words, seeing she´s an Angel...

Rubin is offline Rubin
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Mar 2003
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I opt to join. Where do I sign?

Googlie is offline Googlie
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Apr 1999
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And until 'Poly creates the new forums we prolly need our own pre-planning one to get serious discussions going - I'll see what I can set up for this.


Well, here it is. e-mail me for the forums password (and note that you'll be committing to Morgan by so doing!!)

G.

Googlie is offline Googlie
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Some thoughts on Directors' Compensation

Morgan Industries is capitalized at, for want of a number, 1000 ec's (with liquidity of 100 to start the game)

Each director has 'anted-up" 50 ec's for their initial shareholding (the paid-up capital - the balance being Treasury stock) If there are 10 initial members then they each own 10% of MI.

Their shareholding fluctautes on a pro-rata basis dependent on the wealth they create for MI (as new bases get founded, each Director - in order of signing up, becomes that Base's Governor (Managing Director) and is responsible for managing that base's contribution to overall wealth which is through the 3 basics - energy, psych and minerals)

(This will be tracked on an XL spreadsheet)

Stock options can be granted (by Board approval) for, say, exceptional base growth or contribution to wealth creation, or notionally to new members so that they can, over time, have the opportunity to grow their stake equal to some founding members.

Out of the wealth generated by bases, a percentage is earmarked for Morgan Industries itself (so that, for example, it can build the Merchant Exchange, or support centralized services such as covert operations - an infantry provbe defender would be the responsibility of each base individually, while travelling probes, or foil/cruiser probes would be the responsibility of Central Services)

So Base Managing Directors have subsequent choices of, for example, building a former for base improvement, or renting one from another base to terraform around it while it concentrates on a Research Hospital, or whatever.

The Director can then create personal "wealth" through increasing the overall pie (of which he has a relatively fixed stake), increasing his base's contribution to that pie (thereby increasing incrementally his stake) or by maximising his own base(s) wealth creation so that the share left over after taxes (for centralized services) and base improvements grows.

Ah, what it is to be a capitalist

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Jan 2004
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[roleplay]
Now I'm sure I haven't joined the wrong team
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Jul 2003
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quote:
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Now I'm sure I haven't joined the wrong team
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Yes, you had.

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Jul 1999
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In the Spartan Federation it's much more simple. He who has the most arms has the most power.

 
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