27-04-2004 14:02									#61
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D,
The People are still supporting the widows and orphans of all those (about 12) drowned former crews who gave the last full measure trying to preserve the homeland ; have you even sent your condolences to the survivors yet? (and that is just in The War; in AXT056, you're trying to flood out my Jungle; and I could go on! - and those are just games in which we have pacts too!) Whenever I see you in a game, I think Pressure Domes - That must be why you like those Carriers! What ever happened to living at peace with planet ?

	27-04-2004 18:37									#62
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quote: Looks like everything medium on a towards Large scale map, with the other slight biases easy to see. For map size, I've simply given a number, tiny=1, small=2, med=3, large=4, huge=5, and found the average of all votes (there's 42 votes for planet size). It comes out as 3.714, so close to Large, but just under. quote: Well, we can ask Darsnan to make the world just slightly less than large, using a custom size. No problem. Looks pretty conclusive

It does indeed.

-Jam

	27-04-2004 19:03									#63
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quote: Originally posted by johndmuller HongHu, Lord Darsnan's main "tricks" as the Gaians is to play like a cross between Roze ('Ecoterrorists cause extreme changes in SeaLevel - Treehuggers accused of rampant abduction and massacres of native life' ) and Sven ('GreenPeace stirs up trouble along neighbors' coasts - wild Spore launchers bombard artichoke fields ; Sea Monsters released to harrass shipping'). Keeps his enemies' coast guard busy and everybody's (friends' included) formers working overtime building dikes.

There is nothing wrong in manipulating wild lifes (worms in this case ) to the benefit of the manipulators themselves.

	01-05-2004 07:42									#64
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I did not see this poll before it closed, but I vote Huge map with average everything else.

Because, even without my vote, it looks like well over than 50% of the people want at least a large or bigger map, the map should be large.


Mead

	04-05-2004 08:42									#65
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Have we decided the actual size of the map?

	04-05-2004 11:42									#66
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42x84

	04-05-2004 18:38									#67
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2x4

	04-05-2004 19:00									#68
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Those dont look like very Large maps.........

	04-05-2004 19:21									#69
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Yeah a little crowded for the four teams of us I think.

	04-05-2004 19:40									#70
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Yep thats the understatement of the day

	04-05-2004 19:48									#71
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But the plus side is that the game will not be prolonged till long after people have formed all kind of teams for the next ACDG and start to talk noncenses.

	04-05-2004 19:49									#72
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True, very true.

maybe we should focas on finishing this one first.

	09-05-2004 05:18									#73
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I noticed that we're leaning towards a 50/50 map as far as water vs land is concerned. Since the game seems to be made to favour the land option more than the sea, is there any interest in having the CMN install some Sea Monoliths and/ or Sea Boreholes onto the initial map for the next ACDG? If these are well placed, then they are beneficial to all, as well as offering a different enjoyable perspective to the game.

Any comments here?


D

	09-05-2004 05:48									#74
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I see you're already preparing to drown Chiron.

	09-05-2004 06:14									#75
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Trying to make seabases more interesting, Darsnan?

How about sonar buoys then as FlameFlash proposed?

	09-05-2004 06:25									#76
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quote: Originally posted by Maniac I see you're already preparing to drown Chiron.

Why I have absolutely no idea what your talking about Maniac.... I am simply trying to add some spice to the game, like we all experienced when we first played this game that we all love!
Sea Monoliths are something I have played with and observed work within the context of the game. After observing we are probably going to play on a balanced map, and making the comment that employed properly, Sea Monoliths enhance the game accordingly, why I thought I would offer the comment that the Sea Monoliths could be incorporated into a game, and that perhaps we should discuss this accordingly. However, if you personally have already decided your opinion based upon the biased words of Data Angel johndmuller, then I won't waste my words on trying to disuade your personal opinion.


D

	09-05-2004 07:18									#77
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quote: Originally posted by GeoModder Trying to make seabases more interesting, Darsnan? How about sonar buoys then as FlameFlash proposed?

Follow the path of sonar bouys back in time, and see who it leads to......



D

	09-05-2004 07:43									#78
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Comments:

1) The current game mapsize is 48 x 96. that was plenty big enough, I think

2) I'm in a couple of games that Darsnan has set up and they have ocean boreholes and sea monoliths. They do add a different dimension (IoD's heal in 1 turn rather than lurking in a fungus patch for 4 turns)

3) Sonar buoys add an interesting tactical feature to the game (like advance notice of foils and probeships approaching your coast, same as land sensor arrays do for land forces). They are not limited in functionality to just seabases. Of course you can achieve the same effect (more expensively) with a trawler with deep radar (and it can perform a useful purpose as well, trawling minerals, food or energy)

G.

	09-05-2004 16:01									#79
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In favor for these additions.

	09-05-2004 17:47									#80
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quote: Originally posted by Darsnan Follow the path of sonar bouys back in time, and see who it leads to......

I prefer to click a link...

	09-05-2004 18:49									#81
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quote: Originally posted by GeoModder I prefer to click a link...

Then click here .
This is where I first documented it. I had previously used Sensor Bouy's as far back as two years ago in my "King of the Hill" Challenge over at CGN. FYI.


D

	09-05-2004 19:34									#82
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Yeah sonars are cool, as are sea monoliths. I'm against sea boreholes on principle though. They're just not even a logical possibility, cutting through the ocean to the core of planet. It's bizare and completely unrealistic!

	09-05-2004 21:23									#83
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quote: Originally posted by Darsnan This is where I first documented it. I had previously used Sensor Bouy's as far back as two years ago in my "King of the Hill" Challenge over at CGN. FYI.

Didn't want to imply that this is a new idea, Darsnan. Simply brought it up because I knew FlameFlash was testing the idea.

	10-05-2004 19:06									#84
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I wanted to know how it was possible and how to add it in! I knew it'd probably been done before, hence why I started asking about it.

	10-05-2004 20:04									#85
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Go with the Sonar buoys, they sound pretty cool.

	10-05-2004 21:20									#86
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Another good tweek, drop the -1 food produced in a Mine square, that just hurts the AI cause they love the mine/farm combo and will do virtualy nothing to human teams (accept possibly make terraforming more interesting).

	10-05-2004 22:01									#87
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Who cares if it hurts the AI? Like they really take advantage of some of the other stuff CMNs do for them (recalling the Believers' multitude of colony pods.)

	10-05-2004 23:09									#88
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OK Ive looked around and I still cant figure it out.

What is a CMN? I know it will be probably simple as heck, but for the life of me I cant figure it out.

Thanks

	10-05-2004 23:14									#89
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Creator Moderator Narrator. Most games these days all they do is create, but the name still stands.

	10-05-2004 23:16									#90
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quote: Originally posted by conmcb25 What is a CMN?

Creator - sets up the game, draws the map, assigns start positions, tweaks the AI, sets passwords

Moderator - adjudicates disputes during the game, arranges for replacement players

Narrator - now virtually defunct responsibility - used to periodically post in the turn reporting thread a "view from above" where some macro information was divulged