28-04-2004 18:47									#61
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Hey, what happened to the "early morning" US players?
Too much civ last night to get up in time?

By the way, have we agreed to any rules and etiquette for this game? Are we allowed to contact other players before we have met them in the game, for example?

	29-04-2004 04:19									#62
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dunno what happened to beta I actually left early today and may leave early tomorrow for work like 5:30 or 6am central time. darn work!!

	29-04-2004 04:27									#63
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quote: Originally posted by alexman By the way, have we agreed to any rules and etiquette for this game? Are we allowed to contact other players before we have met them in the game, for example?

I'd say no contact before in-game contact, no use of various allied player exploits (unit warping, double use of units, etc.), but that should be about it.

	29-04-2004 04:37									#64
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I'd agree with Arnelos. I suppose I wouldn't disagree with unit warping in very isolated circumstances, ie if you've been conquered on one continent and agree to leave that continent ... but not regularly. Perhaps could just say "alliances and any other relations that are available in-game must be in-game and in good faith." That covers a lot and is pretty reasonable imho ...

	29-04-2004 04:37									#65
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and by in good faith i don't mean you can't lie to someone, but not collusively to avoid the rules.

Maybe I should just keep my fingers off the keys ...

	29-04-2004 12:44									#66
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos I'd say no contact before in-game contact, no use of various allied player exploits (unit warping, double use of units, etc.), but that should be about it.

looks good to me

	29-04-2004 15:36									#67
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Where IS Beta?

	29-04-2004 16:11									#68
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what the CREATOR is awol

	29-04-2004 17:19									#69
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos Where IS Beta?

Beta is here - but I have had limited Poly time due to RL work demands. Also - my 1.22 dual install went on the fritz. I cannot access my 1.22 saves. I need to work at it - and won't be able to get to it until tomorrow. My apologies folks.

	30-04-2004 04:22									#70
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hey no problem we all have RL from time to time

	30-04-2004 04:23									#71
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and if you need a file or something to fix the install let me know, I can upload whatever you need. I'll be online most of tomorrow since I have Fri. off.

	01-05-2004 01:29									#72
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Fixed. On to snoopy.

	01-05-2004 01:35									#73
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Sent on to Alexman.

	01-05-2004 01:44									#74
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3850 BC sent to Arnelos
(who is the only one of us currently not online - too bad )

	01-05-2004 01:46									#75
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Please us my aol addy for saves etc,

ChrisBennett8 AT aol DOT com

Thanks

	01-05-2004 01:52									#76
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lol alexman ... wow, even paddy's online? Must be like 6am over the much bigger pond ...

maybe we can get ourselves a few turns in then (when Arnelos logs in in a half hour or hour probably based on previous estimation)

	01-05-2004 03:26									#77
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Online... though about to leave for dinner... getting the save now.

	01-05-2004 03:30									#78
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3850 BC to Paddy.

Ok, leaving for dinner. I should be back relatively soon.

	01-05-2004 11:27									#79
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thanks a bit hung over at the moment

onto McMeadows

	01-05-2004 16:07									#80
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Sorry mates, I forgot to close the Apolyton website before I went to bed and slept in a little. Played the turn a while ago. Sorry CM, only just noticed you prefered your saves on a different account. Next turn will be on the aol one.. I'll be online the next few hours..

	01-05-2004 17:39									#81
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Ok thanks I only just got the email from hotmail, so as you can see it sucks

Played and sent to Beta

	01-05-2004 18:58									#82
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And on to snoop.

	01-05-2004 19:06									#83
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quote: Originally posted by alexman By the way, have we agreed to any rules and etiquette for this game? Are we allowed to contact other players before we have met them in the game, for example?

alexman - I suggest we use the 'regular' set of guidelines being developed in the topped info thread. It includes no out-of-game contact until contact is made in game. And no map trading of any sort until you can actually trade maps in game.

The tougher discussion is the exploits list. And given the debate now going on in the ptwdg forum - it is probably best we agree to a set. There was a controversial finish to a pbem game that H_E and vondrcak were both in that involved ship chaining. Both agree that it would have been best if all had agreed in advance as to what was considered OK, and what wasn't.

There was considerable discussion created by the list Rommel2D had put together for the recent pbem tourney as well.

Guess I need to get cracking on my topped thread. I would like to have a standard set of Poly pbem guidelines, along with a list of exploits where at a minimum, players starting up a pbem game could agree to them, or some subset of them.

	01-05-2004 20:24									#84
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on to Alexman
and I agree ... tho I think there should be a "base set" which basically everyone agrees to 100% of the time (like no contact out of game before in game) that would have to be explicitly agreed not to use (ie, the assumption would be that ALL games would include the base set of rules) and then an "expanded set" that you could agree to if you want but are not agreed to by default.

	01-05-2004 20:25									#85
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and for the record I'm *not* hung over, as seems to be the rule for today. Just sleepy.

	02-05-2004 01:23									#86
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3800 to Arnelos. Sorry for the delay - it's nice outside and my wife made me go shopping with her!

	02-05-2004 01:33									#87
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lol
gf here is luckily a gamer as well so lots of gaming today

	02-05-2004 03:58									#88
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3800 BC to Paddy

	02-05-2004 06:01									#89
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and onto Mac

	02-05-2004 07:34									#90
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3800 BC to CM