29-06-2004 03:13									#361
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come now, it's not like i disclosed valuable secrets. much like how the AI can manage to spread the information about a player civ's reputation, just through contacts, my post was along those lines i believe

it's all for fun, and it sure is nicer than a turn sent post x 100

	29-06-2004 03:19									#362
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I think you can post something here as long as you could have e-mailed the same information to each player individually.

Does information about declaration of war require an embassy? I couldn't see anything like that in the etiquette. You need an ambassy to coordinate research, and you need an alliance to coordinate military operations, but I think it's fine to tell civ A that you have been attacked by civ B, as long as you are certain that A and B have met in the game.

	29-06-2004 06:03									#363
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	29-06-2004 06:08									#364
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As an aside, I checked my foreign advisor's screen and it shows that the English and Egyptians are at war so it's not "new" information.

	29-06-2004 07:10									#365
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Ruins!
1225 sent.

	29-06-2004 10:37									#366
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quote: Originally posted by alexman I think you can post something here as long as you could have e-mailed the same information to each player individually.

This is what I had in mind with the etiquette/exploits. The optional embassy rules are meant to hinder tech alliances and slow the pace of discovery some. General discussion/rumors of conflict are for anyone willing to listen. Of course there's no guarantee any of the information is accurate or truthful...

The gray area I've discovered is a matter of what level of cooperation constitutes an alliance which must be declared on the diplo screen. When propositioned for an alliance in one of my games, the agreement hinged on commiting troops to a future conflict. We ended up deciding we could agree to commit troops, but not with any specifics such as number, type, or location of, without a formal alliance declaration. Of course, precise location description depends on tech level also.

Is this clear and sensible? Would it perhaps be simpler and better to forbid any email/forum discussion of third party tribes until an alliance against them is accepted in the diplo screen?

	29-06-2004 10:44									#367
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followups to the main thread.

	29-06-2004 10:47									#368
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edit: posted the message in the main thread

	29-06-2004 11:35									#369
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Sent on to SM for the last time.

	29-06-2004 11:55									#370
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England

4000BC-1225BC

RIP



we're gona miss you



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	29-06-2004 12:05									#371
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Trip's out?

I guess I'd have ranked England as the worst tribe for these settings- tough luck, eh?

	29-06-2004 12:13									#372
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Bad start, bad civ, bad land, bad luck. With no chance to win I decided it was a waste of time to continue.

	30-06-2004 05:44									#373
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Next time!

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	30-06-2004 08:10									#374
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1200 to smellymummy.

	30-06-2004 11:04									#375
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C'mon Trip, you're the professional diplogamer- you couldn't compensate for a bad start by manipulating the other players in diplomacy?

Could someone list the scores from the latest turn so I can use them in an update? Thanx.

	30-06-2004 11:14									#376
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1. alexman (Dutch) 192
3. smellymummy (Egyptian) 185
4. Soltz (Spanish) 134



1200BC sent to soltz

	30-06-2004 11:43									#377
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quote: Originally posted by Rommel2D C'mon Trip, you're the professional diplogamer- you couldn't compensate for a bad start by manipulating the other players in diplomacy? Could someone list the scores from the latest turn so I can use them in an update? Thanx.

Considering I was sneak attacked by a guy who had nothing to gain from my weakening and everything to lose from my destruction... perhaps not.

	01-07-2004 05:45									#378
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Turn sent to Netherlands.

	01-07-2004 06:57									#379
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1175 to SM

	01-07-2004 07:12									#380
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1175BC to soltz

	01-07-2004 11:06									#381
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1150 sent

	02-07-2004 00:55									#383
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to soltz

	02-07-2004 01:33									#384
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To Netherlands.

	02-07-2004 01:39									#385
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Sorry, I got an e-mail without a save.

	02-07-2004 02:26									#386
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Got it, and sent to Egypt (1125 BC).

	02-07-2004 02:33									#387
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to spain

	02-07-2004 04:59									#388
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1100 to smellymummy

	02-07-2004 05:40									#389
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back to spain

	02-07-2004 06:15									#390
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To Netherlands