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Mr. President
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The leaves that are green turn to brown
Jul 2001
time: 15:35
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Okay, I think I'm getting the right answers now.
Karakas' NS population is: 3,361,000,000
sqrt(3,361,000,000) = 57,974.13216
Effective population = 57,974.13216 x 5,500 = 318,857,727
Edit: Before I was not only misreading the answer but also pressing the wrong buttons on my calculator.
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arkatahten
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Maybe the result should take another step and give you a range instead of an exact number. This would limit us while also giving us some flexibility to choose our own populations within certain limits.
If result of calculations already introduced in this thread are "x" then the actual result is anywhere of the player's choosing within the range of "y - x through x + y." I don't know how we figure out "y," but it should probably scale also.
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GeneralTacticus
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of Melbourne, Australia
Dec 2001
time: 15:35
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr. President
I think having a regional (or world, if we want to be one contained pocket of the multiverse) Assembly would be an interesting thing. I would think, however, it might be better with something slightly more free-form: Someone proposes an issue and people take turns making in-character comments. Then we could vote on useless resolutions and censure countries we don't like   |
That sounds rather interesting... although I agree it would have to be a bit more free-form than the UN General Assembly. Waiting for your requests to speak to approved could take ages, and seriously slow things down - so, IMO, the furthest we should go in that direction would be to have some IC rules regarding speaking, and just assume that anyone who wants to say something has approval.
Regarding population: we could have a rule saying that you could vary your population from the number given by any amount you liked, but, if you go over, the original number is what's used for economic calculations and the like, so you could still have nations with populations in the billions, but they'd also be extremely poor.
Or we could just allow you to alter your figures by 15-20% in either direction, possibly using the system above (which would encourage smaller populations while not making them ridiculous).
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Mr. President
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The leaves that are green turn to brown
Jul 2001
time: 15:35
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That sounds bad, but I hear you can get away with it if your currency is very strong and you own everyone else's foreign debt. But you clearly don't and never will.
Last edited by Mr. President on 27-06-2005 at 13:16
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GeneralTacticus
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of Melbourne, Australia
Dec 2001
time: 15:35
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Given that this means you will need to borrow $10 trillion off someone else every year (that is, $316 880 and 88 cents per second), no, this is not a good thing. Given that, with a deficit on that scale, you're highly unlikely to ever be able to pay back your creditors, you'll have to get money from any or all of these sources:
1) Loans with such ridiculously high interest that they'll make the money back soon eve if you don't pay off the debt.
2) Banks run by corrupt managers who just want to make it look like they're actually doing something, when they're actually planning to bug out right before the bank collapses and go live on a tropical island somewhere.
3) Pillaging other nations for stuff you can use to fill in the gap. Given the expense of modern war and the size of the deficit, you'd need to be fighting constantly, probably across half the region.
4) Print money. This is the easiest course, but expect your economy to drop like a stone once hyperinflation sets in. On the plus side, plenty of opportunities for funny stories about people making their wallpaper out of money.
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Squeblish Nef?
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Warning: This text is next to an Avatar. DO NOT READ UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!
Jul 2003
time: 15:35
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Actually, my Government waste is well over $12,000,000,000,000 and my trade surplus is over $2,000,000,000,000 (100% government-owned), so I might be in the clear.
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Kuciwalker
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of Schmooism
Feb 2001
time: 00:35
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quote:
Originally posted by GeneralTacticus
Given that this means you will need to borrow $10 trillion off someone else every year (that is, $316 880 and 88 cents per second), no, this is not a good thing. Given that, with a deficit on that scale, you're highly unlikely to ever be able to pay back your creditors, you'll have to get money from any or all of these sources:
1) Loans with such ridiculously high interest that they'll make the money back soon eve if you don't pay off the debt.
2) Banks run by corrupt managers who just want to make it look like they're actually doing something, when they're actually planning to bug out right before the bank collapses and go live on a tropical island somewhere.
3) Pillaging other nations for stuff you can use to fill in the gap. Given the expense of modern war and the size of the deficit, you'd need to be fighting constantly, probably across half the region.
4) Print money. This is the easiest course, but expect your economy to drop like a stone once hyperinflation sets in. On the plus side, plenty of opportunities for funny stories about people making their wallpaper out of money. |
5) default on the debt
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