26-04-2004 05:40									#1
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Please vote for your choice, much discussion has occured we need to get a consensu on this to allow Role Play to continue

	26-04-2004 05:50									#2
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If multiple nations are allowed, the expansion for lone nations should definitely be allowed. I think any expansion should be approved, and maximum number of spots on the map per person should be fixed.

	26-04-2004 05:59									#3
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once again the wise jonchas have spoken

	26-04-2004 06:27									#4
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quote: Originally posted by joncha If multiple nations are allowed, the expansion for lone nations should definitely be allowed. I think any expansion should be approved, and maximum number of spots on the map per person should be fixed.

Bring it on

possibly each of the nations spaces could have a pop limit or something along those lines

	26-04-2004 06:29									#5
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hey that not such a bad idea....

	26-04-2004 06:35									#6
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well with all the land we have available - madness to leave it lieing there - not very realistic either

and if we get a sudden influx of players -

well how hard is it to either:

- squish up a bit
that is the bigger players move back into there original borders a bit

or

- the map makers expand the map a bit

	26-04-2004 06:47									#7
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great ideas...

	26-04-2004 08:21									#8
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Are we talking about peaceful expansion or military conquest?

As I posted somewhere else, each area on the map can only have so many people, so a nation with a large population should be allowed to move into empty territories as the need arises.

Military conquests, on the other hand, should be handled by the regional Court.

	26-04-2004 09:03									#9
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Some of the island 'nations' allocated on the map are really small! Ceroomaster even made his islands bigger when he redrew the map

	26-04-2004 09:20									#10
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I do believe we are talking about peaceful expansion

	26-04-2004 09:50									#11
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Flinx - that's true. So what do you suggest?

	26-04-2004 12:47									#12
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The Tooled-Up Sultanate of Al Mastif has, on average, 0.0031 people per square kilometre, but a population of 1.8 b+.
How does that work, wiseass?

	26-04-2004 12:51									#13
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just curious, but how do you know the "0.0031 per sq km" information?

	26-04-2004 13:50									#14
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He made it up. Al Mastif is apparently made up of desert nomads who somehow became very numerous, thus taking up a very large area.

As for how it works: it doesn't. Move to the Corrupted Empires of Charr if you want to have endless desert nations.

	26-04-2004 15:55									#15
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thanks for that General

	26-04-2004 16:09									#16
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quote: Originally posted by GeneralTacticus He made it up. Al Mastif is apparently made up of desert nomads who somehow became very numerous, thus taking up a very large area. As for how it works: it doesn't. Move to the Corrupted Empires of Charr if you want to have endless desert nations.

Oh no you don't!
I ain't never touchin' no Charrs never again!
I'm clean, man! Honest!

	26-04-2004 16:20									#17
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As for the poll itself: wtf is this 'Apolyton Council', and why should it have any authority over whether or not a nation can claim an area of the map?

	26-04-2004 16:27									#18
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Stand tall General.

	26-04-2004 17:11									#19
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The United Good has already formally requested an expansion to accommodate our billion plus populace... The other option is to send out more missionaries to our fellow Apolyton States... There could be one about to knock on your door right now !!!

	26-04-2004 17:12									#20
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* GeneralTacticus sets up a claymore facing the door with a vibration-sensor tripwire.

	26-04-2004 18:48									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Flinx Some of the island 'nations' allocated on the map are really small! Ceroomaster even made his islands bigger when he redrew the map

quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Flinx - that's true. So what do you suggest?

possible options:
- group islands together to form bigger nations (e.g. 44+184=new 44 and call somewhere else 184; 9+10=new 9 and call somewhere else 10; etc.)
- redraw the islands with a bigger area. (allow people to submit their own island map)

	26-04-2004 20:53									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Flinx Some of the island 'nations' allocated on the map are really small! Ceroomaster even made his islands bigger when he redrew the map

There are less of them though.
I actually transfered my original old map of Ceroo onto the main one. The islands ARE bigger, but there are less of them. The difference in pixels across the three territories, Ceroo, San Antonio Bay and True Colony is actually not that big (although it is over-all larger I will admit)

Plus, I will allow other people to reasonably reshape their own island and alter their coastline and incorporate the changes into the map (as stated in the map thread).

I voted yes on the poll.
(And have submitted a suggestion on the OOC: The Rules thread about how it should be handled)

	26-04-2004 22:54									#23
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The yes votes seem to be winning

	26-04-2004 22:56									#24
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indeed

but what is this council in option 2 ???

	27-04-2004 08:28									#25
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Methinks by "Apolyton Council" Ras means us users get to vote on it (which would mean, I suppose, that this thread is a meeting of the Apolyton Council).

	27-04-2004 11:52									#26
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cool, that makes sense

thanks for that

	28-04-2004 05:45									#27
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very basically the apoylton council i referred to was supposed to say apoylton court addressed here ... http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...threadid=113319

	28-04-2004 05:54									#28
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oh, ok...

thanks for that