16-06-2000 12:39									#1
	Restriction of Creation of New Threads Changed to 1/8 hours/person in OT Inflate your Upload Space

I will not give any reason for the change, as I'm sure that whatever reason I give, more people will believe that it has something to do with my childhood

The setting is changed to <u>1 new thread every 8 hours per poster</u>.

When(and if) that will be possible(perl gurus are welcome), it will change to 3 threads per day(e.g. you will be able to post 3 threads at once but not anymore for the rest of day)

I hope we wont start seeing "this is my thread for the next 8 hours" kind of threads. Keep just one thing on your mind:
less disruption, less rules. more disruption, more rules. your choice.

	16-06-2000 12:46									#2
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Hmmm, this is why Athens fell into ruins

But it is a step in the right direction

	16-06-2000 12:50									#3
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by MarkG on 06-16-2000 03:39 AM</font>
Keep just one thing on your mind: less disruption, less rules. more disruption, more rules. your choice.
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Mark, I understand your concern. Wouldn't it be better if these rules are directed at those responsible, though?



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	16-06-2000 12:51									#4
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Thanks, Mark

I'm up to my butt in work for about a month (plus moving into a new house July 1), but after that, I should have time to help out on the PERL side, if you still need it.

Let me know, or I'll bug you to remind you.

	16-06-2000 13:04									#5
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I can cope with that considering I post at dispersed points throughout the clock (from 9am to as late as 3am (not solid, but at points between these)). So by the time 8 hours have past I could probably remember a good idea for a thread.

	16-06-2000 15:02									#6
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*damn, Mark is being reasonable, there goes my 'Turks have superior civ to Greeks' thread*

	16-06-2000 18:24									#7
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I think you have made the right decision Markos. Although I would prefer 3/24 hours rather than 1/8 hours, this is a good compromise. Good work(!).

	16-06-2000 18:40									#8
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'less disruption, less rules. more disruption, more rules. your choice' - MarkG. Our God speaks. Of course DanQ has no comment on this...

God forbid you just get rid of the people who cause the disruptions in first place.

	16-06-2000 18:51									#9
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Well Graag... the intent is to make it 3 threads in 24 hours. Once he figures out how to do that. (again, any help on this to MarkG would be appreciated)

And MWHC... getting rid of the trouble makers doesn't really help in the long run. They just come back under different log ons. At least this way, we know who to watch
<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by Ming (edited June 16, 2000).]</font>

	16-06-2000 18:57									#10
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This restriction is for the OT only, or for all the forum sections? Cause in some sections with very few posters, this might obstruct conversation.

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	16-06-2000 19:03									#11
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by My Wife Hates CIV on 06-16-2000 09:40 AM</font>
MarkG. Our God speaks. Of course DanQ has no comment on this...
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>Tut Tut... First of all, Dan's probably busy doing other stuff around the site, and doesn't feel his presence is needed here since Mark's already taking care of this issue, and secondly, you should know that changes in the forum script are almost always done by Mark, so it makes sense he's the one debating the issue here



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	16-06-2000 19:04									#12
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axi: It's only for OT.

Narck: Good work, boy.
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	16-06-2000 19:12									#13
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Ooops! Just nociced it myself!

Some people here are very fast in their responses.

	16-06-2000 19:18									#14
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<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font><font size=1>Originally posted by LightEning on 06-16-2000 10:04 AM</font>
Narck: Good work, boy.

<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>I was editing in my answer to my post when you posted the answer, so when I saw your answer I edited mine out again

	16-06-2000 19:18									#15
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat on 06-16-2000 03:51 AM</font>
I'm up to my butt in work for about a month (plus moving into a new house July 1), but after that, I should have time to help out on the PERL side, if you still need it.

Let me know, or I'll bug you to remind you.
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>thanks Michael, I'll contact you if I havent done it by then...

	16-06-2000 20:14									#16
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MarkG: I assume there has already been a hack posted on the UBB hacking forum?

Thank you for trying to make the rule saner.

	16-06-2000 20:21									#17
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Good work MarkG!

Big improvement. I'd still like to see a way around the 150 post restriction (if you've used all of your threads), but it's still much better.



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	16-06-2000 20:26									#18
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Dan, yes, this hack is not my work(I've only made a small change to allow admins and mods not to be limited) as almost all added features...

	17-06-2000 09:34									#19
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Alexander's Horse on 06-16-2000 06:02 AM</font>
there goes my 'Turks have superior civ to Greeks' thread*
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How can they have a superior civ??? They're not even on the game! Unless you edited the rules!!!!!!!


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	16-06-2000 23:08									#20
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Hmmm, there's one thing I'm not clear on. When you say 1 post/8 hours does that mean if I post at Noon my next post must be after 8PM, and if I post at 1PM my next post must be after 9PM? Or is the count reset at fixed times, 1 post between Midnight and 8Am, 1 post between 8AM and 4PM...?

edit: Brain, maybe AH is referring to a Civ found in CtP, you think?

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	16-06-2000 23:12									#21
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the 8 hours refer to time difference between the threads. the first case you mentioned...

	17-06-2000 00:00									#22
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Hmmmmm... ...It's a step in the right direction. But we're not there yet!

I'll voice my own opinion on this matter later in the weekend.
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	17-06-2000 00:39									#23
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Hey, If I change my User Name, can I post several topics in an eight-hour period?

	17-06-2000 02:02									#24
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Its better than 1 every day, but I guess I'll just have to go to Q9 or ACOL the rest of the time.

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	17-06-2000 03:56									#25
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<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Mad Lord Snapcase on 06-16-2000 03:39 PM</font>
Hey, If I change my User Name, can I post several topics in an eight-hour period?
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>you can post two instead of one, and you'll be sttuck with the second login for 60 days

	17-06-2000 04:12									#26
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One new thread every 8 hours is no different to me than one thread every day.

I can't join the 'thank you Mark' crowd. That said I'm in the minority now, as all you folks just love not being able to start a thread but once in eight hours, or a least feel you've won w/ this new restriction. If you were wacked on the head twice in one day and the next day only once would you be thankful?

We don't need a restriction at all. That's not just myself speaking but the moderators in charge of maintaing order. The OT is orderly now, without this. Many of us have dedicated time to helping maintain order and have alot of time and effort involved helping the Mods to get it where it is now. So why are we locked out after one thread?

Edited to replace 'post' w/ 'start a thread'. The question however remains.....

What did we do wrong?
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	17-06-2000 04:27									#27
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<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font>all you folks just love not being able to post but once in eight hours
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>not post, but start a new thread. it is quite different...

btw, did the "serious and legitimate posters" became a "thanking crowd" now?
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	17-06-2000 04:52									#28
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Yes well that's what I meant Mark, I'll edit it.

	17-06-2000 08:55									#29
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Honestly, frankly, and with all gratitude to Markos and Dan for hosting this forum, I think this is the stupidest thing since the YYYH/Spink bannings.

Think about it - you get some great thread ideas all of a sudden, and you post them. But then, you are dry for the next week - you posted several in 10 minutes, all interesting threads. Ooh, can't do that, that would be "disruptive".

Additionally, what about cases where a current thread gives you a great idea for a new one, but you are already at your limit? Doesn't that greatly limit some of us?

Really, I think that far too many rules are being placed in the "Off-Topic" forum - the best solution, as many would agree, is to simply make a Silliness Forum, a la SidGames, and restrict the stupid stuff there.

	17-06-2000 09:22									#30
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I'm sorely disappointed Mark; pressure from the vocal majority got to you. Rather than reduce the topic limit by 1/3, I think you should have INCREASED it to 1 thread every 3 days. Bunch of whiners....