29-04-2004 09:09									#1
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So I'm wondering for those who argue out of blissful ignorance that gays chose to be gay . . . .

since heterosexuality and homosexuality are both sexual orientations, one cannot be a choice and the other not -- if you insist that homosexuality is a choice, then heterosexuality must be a choice as well.





So tell us your story -- what day did you wake up one morning and decided that you would choose to be a flamboyant straight person??

	29-04-2004 09:10									#2
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No.

	29-04-2004 09:12									#3
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Actually, since I remained a virgin for a very long time, I tended to be attracted to both sexes. It was a concsious decision to start my sexual life "the normal way", even rhough I still intend to experience many "abnormal ways" in the future

	29-04-2004 09:15									#4
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Spiff you are one strange guy

Not that that's in a negative way but you do alot of unorthodox things

	29-04-2004 09:16									#5
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You see, I was floating around in a pool of fellow sperm, but I managed to reach to the egg, and once I found it, I decided "this is too fun to pass up, when I live, I too will be heterosexual."

	29-04-2004 09:17									#6
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Yeah I think the argument that gays choose to be gay is ridiculous

Sure there are those that do

As for myself some of my earliest memories are of getting a stiffy after checking out some fine girls in some short skirts.

First words were like, "dada," then like "Ihiddut."

	29-04-2004 09:18									#7
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I choose the Fred Flinstone phone.

Spiffor.

	29-04-2004 09:19									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Not that that's in a negative way but you do alot of unorthodox things

Well, so dar, I haven't done anything, except meeting a girl, love her, and make love with her

	29-04-2004 09:20									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Actually, since I remained a virgin for a very long time, I tended to be attracted to both sexes. It was a concsious decision to start my sexual life "the normal way", even rhough I still intend to experience many "abnormal ways" in the future

Sorry -- it I had a politically incorrect lapse and forgot to include bisexuality in the poll.

	29-04-2004 09:21									#10
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun So I'm wondering for those who argue out of blissful ignorance that gays chose to be gay . . . . since heterosexuality and homosexuality are both sexual orientations, one cannot be a choice and the other not -- if you insist that homosexuality is a choice, then heterosexuality must be a choice as well. So tell us your story -- what day did you wake up one morning and decided that you would choose to be a flamboyant straight person??

April 3rd, 1978. It wasn't until the following October that I stopped being so flamboyant, but I decided to be straight on April 3rd. It's still marked on my calendar.

	29-04-2004 09:22									#11
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Well, this is a poll for straight people only... And for all intend and purposes, I am so far 100% straight

Overall, I think I am bi with a clear penchant for women.

	29-04-2004 09:23									#12
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Cossel: "Lambau Field April 3rd....down by 12 points, JohnT reaches behind the center's buttocks and takes the snap.."

	29-04-2004 09:23									#13
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quote: Sorry -- it I had a politically incorrect lapse and forgot to include bisexuality in the poll.

I think that most people vastly underestimate the number of bisexuals out there, its just that in society conditions us to think of this sort of thing in a strange binary manner.

	29-04-2004 09:24									#14
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT April 3rd, 1978. It wasn't until the following October that I stopped being so flamboyant, but I decided to be straight on April 3rd. It's still marked on my calendar.

Details would be nice.


For instance, if you married your wife on that day you chose to marry someone of the opposite gender -- that does not necessarily mean you chose to be straight. Closeted gays have married someone of the opposite gender out of societal pressure.


Sooooooooooo -- when did you fundamentally choose to be gay? It cannot be projected on something superficially outward like marriage or a one night stand experience.

	29-04-2004 09:24									#15
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT April 3rd, 1978. It wasn't until the following October that I stopped being so flamboyant, but I decided to be straight on April 3rd. It's still marked on my calendar.

You made the conscious decision at eleven?

	29-04-2004 09:25									#16
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Well, I was busy.

	29-04-2004 09:26									#17
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So you were eleven at that time?

	29-04-2004 09:29									#18
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Yeah. I just woke up one morning asking myself... "straight or gay... straight or gay..." I then decided "straight."

(I do hope that some of you realize that this is a joke. Spiffor.)

	29-04-2004 09:31									#19
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thanks for the joke

	29-04-2004 09:33									#20
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Just trying to illustrate the absurdity of the argument.

	29-04-2004 09:33									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Actually, since I remained a virgin for a very long time, I tended to be attracted to both sexes. It was a concsious decision to start my sexual life "the normal way", even rhough I still intend to experience many "abnormal ways" in the future

funny, this is my situation exactly. I feel definitely straight but I have a minor attraction towards men. I almost accepted an offer from a gay man once.

	29-04-2004 09:40									#22
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Pretty simple - because men are ugly. Heck, if I were a woman, I wouldn't want to make out with a man either.

	29-04-2004 10:37									#23
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I chose to be bi, after realizing two things,
1: Guys are hot
2: Women are hot too, but being straight jsut is SOOOOOOOOO passe.
3: And Travis Fimmel is HOT!

	29-04-2004 11:26									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Pretty simple - because men are ugly. Heck, if I were a woman, I wouldn't want to make out with a man either.

Amen.

According to Alfred Kinsey the famous sex researcher, very small percentage of the population is 100% heterosexual or homosexual. Most of us are in the between.

Personally I've always believed there are two factors - sexual orientation and sexual preference. Most of us are bisexual along the lines of orientation but many of us have preferences over there or here or perhaps on that line between over there and here.

That was mmm 9 years ago. Today, I don't give a flying poop anymore - you are who you are, that's simple.

	29-04-2004 11:30									#25
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quote: According to Alfred Kinsey the famous sex researcher, very small percentage of the population is 100% heterosexual or homosexual. Most of us are in the between.

Ya I'veheard hta, and believe it to be the truth. Society jsut conditions us to be in three boxes, gay, bi, or straight. I think sex is broader than that. People are just conditioned by the media.

	29-04-2004 11:33									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker First words were like, "dada," then like "Ihiddut."

I've talked about this in my Psychology of Gender class. They said that our society is heterocentric and that heterocentrism in the norm.

But...ah...for me? I love the women. Guys are cool to drink with, play sports and video games with, and talk smack with....but anything else is um......not my bag.

	29-04-2004 11:35									#27
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I personally believe it's true. Heterosexual women are usually much more 'permissive' with other women than heterosexual men are. That's probably a consequence of social conditioning.

	29-04-2004 11:39									#28
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You said it Boris.

quote: But...ah...for me? I love the women. Guys are cool to drink with, play sports and video games with, and talk smack with....but anything else is um......not my bag.

Well franky, jsut remeber that anytime you want a little spankt franky, my door is always WIDE OPEN!

	29-04-2004 11:39									#29
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You said it Boris.

quote: But...ah...for me? I love the women. Guys are cool to drink with, play sports and video games with, and talk smack with....but anything else is um......not my bag.

Well franky, jsut remeber that anytime you want a little spanky franky, my door is always WIDE OPEN!

	29-04-2004 11:41									#30
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quote: Originally posted by bipolarbear Well franky, jsut remeber that anytime you want a little spanky franky, my door is always WIDE OPEN!

They prefer it tight.