12-05-2004 12:44									#61
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wat can CGN do to help us in this situation.

if GWT is going to redirect the ansars at us as soon as we land, CGN should take advantage of the situation.

	12-05-2004 18:27									#62
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I really like the proposed CFC strike on GWT's war road. That should complicate matters for GWT nicely.

-Arrian

p.s. For anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about, E_T's map thread has a good illustration.

	12-05-2004 23:23									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Zero wat can CGN do to help us in this situation. if GWT is going to redirect the ansars at us as soon as we land, CGN should take advantage of the situation.

Possibly yes.

	17-05-2004 05:06									#64
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Bump

E_T

	17-05-2004 07:15									#65
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We need to take out their FP.
There are several other highly desirable targets (ie parth) that will make good secondary targets.

Send a scout ahead, so that we can see their ansars on their return (at least an idea).

Keep killing them and assessing things on a turn by turn basis. Once an assessment is made that it is time to pull out, do so. But until that time, keep killing, burning and pillaging.

	15-07-2004 13:47									#66
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Trip, I thought you'd like to possibly update this thread with some additions or deltetions to the actual plan as of this moment.

	16-07-2004 00:32									#67
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Yes whats the latest plan?

Do we know whether they have used that last great leader they got? (GWT)

	16-07-2004 01:05									#68
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Yes, we know they used it on Sistine's Chappel. The latest plan is....???

	16-07-2004 01:25									#69
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I was wondering, what happens when next turn, a scouting galley spots the tile we want to embark on to be covered by a stray worker / ansar?

DeepO

	16-07-2004 01:36									#70
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Pick another tile...

If they are all covered, then attack something else...

	16-07-2004 01:51									#71
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that's the problem, I think. THere is no other tile in reach of our ships.

DeepO

	16-07-2004 01:53									#72
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I was thinking more along the lines of wiping out GCA for the hell of it...

basically, we are screwed, for the obvious reasons...

	16-07-2004 02:12									#73
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If the target tile is covered, we go for an alternate landing site and accept that we can't build the city to get the second wave in.

If all the tiles within range are covered, we unfurl the sails again and decide whether or not to go home...

	16-07-2004 06:23									#74
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Yup. GWT shouldn't see us coming, so they shouldn't have anything there. It's a gamble, yes, but unless they get really lucky they're going to be really screwed soon.

In order for them to SEE us a turn in advance they'll have to have a boat moved and fortified on our debarkation tile THIS TURN. Even if they move a unit there this coming turn, they won't be able to see us in time (though we would have to kill it).

Good luck for Apolytonia.

	16-07-2004 23:08									#75
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If we want to make it look like we're invading, we could, After we land all units, ferry the empty caravels in group back and forth between the new city and outside GWT visible range (so that it looks like there are more units coming in)

	17-07-2004 01:39									#76
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Yes, that could work I suppose, but not until they saw them leave and then saw them return would they think so. Maybe we could have the ships reappear further South or even North depending on what we want to do and what CFC's plans for an attack are.

	17-07-2004 04:43									#77
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rename them, and let them return that turn, and they at least will be puzzled. As long as they end in the direction at least, because it seems the direction of ships is kept (and ships fleeing the invasion ground wil be easily spotted)

DeepO

	17-07-2004 22:08									#78
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Is renaming in this manner allowed?

	17-07-2004 23:46									#79
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Hey, everybody is stretching the rules, just do so, if people have complaints, they can always complain after.

Aidun

	18-07-2004 00:06									#80
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I don't think we can justify "exploits" just because other people do them. I did think it was frowned upon to do this though, but whether an official rule was made about it, I know not.

	18-07-2004 01:06									#81
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I agree with WB that "everyone else is doing it" is not a good justification.

That said, I think this would be okay. The only furors I remember over renaming had to do with actually trying to fool the enemy into believing a unit was a different type, not just a unit that they hadn't seen before.

Look at it this way: If we weren't in to naming, we could have just left them all at "Caravel" and they wouldn't be able to tell one of our caravels from another. But we have given each a name, and so have to change the name again to create the same effect we could have already if we had left the name alone in the first place. So, I think it's okay to try to fool them with names so long as we don't try to convince them they're Frigates rather than Caravels.

	18-07-2004 03:45									#82
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Deception is a valuable strategic option in warfare. Use whatever we can to win, because after all, the winners write the history.

	18-07-2004 04:23									#83
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I agree with Kloreeps reasoning.