09-06-2004 18:40									#61
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Are you sure?

Yes. They are imune to physical attack-you need magic or holy attacks.

Neither the wraith nor the undead mass nor devils have the death touch-because it is so powerful. It makes sense only the grim reaper would have such a move.

quote: That's why I don't understand how undead cities could grow in size.

Jamski gets it, which is why you see a cementary around the undead cities.

	09-06-2004 19:24									#62
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* Jamski likes turning the WHOLE MAP to wasteland*
You can give heros items with the ability too, to speed the process. Or you can play Halflings or something and try the opposite...

-Jam

	09-06-2004 19:46									#63
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AOW2 bored me with its single-element gameplay but SM sounds like it might be worth a visit once its cheap. Like UR I preferred the tactical necessity of having siege equipment or units with special movement with your armies if you wanted to capture walled towns. Letting everything waltz in rather defeats the point.

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quote: Originally posted by Jamski * Jamski likes turning the WHOLE MAP to wasteland*

I like turning it to ice, personally...

	09-06-2004 22:21									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Doesn't wasteland work like farmland for Undead???

You mean they eat dirt?

	09-06-2004 22:42									#66
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They're undead. What's going to happen to them if they skip a few meals?

	09-06-2004 23:26									#67
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Yes, the Undead are not really in need of crops.

I think the 'paths' are of death (kills all vegetation), of ice, of life (revitalizes everything, turns it into grasslands), and of darkness (hides the map again for your enemy).

	10-06-2004 01:52									#68
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Grr... I hate path of Darkness units... covering up all the map I've worked so hard to reveal....

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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike They're undead. What's going to happen to them if they skip a few meals?

The only problem with that line of thought is undeads never produce anything.

	10-06-2004 14:20									#70
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They only have to raid the nearest graveyard for bones

-Jam

	17-06-2004 02:49									#71
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Heya, Apolyton! Meesa back!!

Just got this game on Saturday, inspired in part by the discussion in this thread. Worked through the 3-scenario tutorial campaign and now I'm hooked. I was never interested in this strategy genre before until finally seeing all three LOTR movies in January. Wow. I've been missing a lot.

Anyway, just got killed early in the Norwood campaign. My Elven stronghold was overrun by three stacks of Vorsar's troops with my wizard in it. Thought Elf cities were supposed to be hidden.

So what's the key to success in this campaign?

	17-06-2004 09:03									#72
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Kill them before they kill you?

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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Kill them before they kill you?

That'll work!

Ok, upon restarting, I'm doing much better now that I found Beriad and recruited Storone. Nice of Beriad to already have a wizard's tower in place. I falsely assumed that Oakbark was the main town and spent too much time trying to develop it in my first game. Found that glade runners come in very handy for quickly exploring a mostly wooded map.

Just finished destroying the demon base to collect a big pot o' gold from the Spirit of Nature chick. All that should be left to do now is build up a big army and march west to take out Vorsar. It'll all be over soon.

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Glade runners make excellent scouts.

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D'oh!
Now why did I forget you could rebuild razed cities with a Pioneer? For only a modest investment you can end up with a fully developed city. I could be a lot further along by now.

Ok, so I'm nearly 100 days into the second scenario. I've located Fangir and made an alliance with him. I can't explore any further west due to the presence of two heavily defended Orc cities. What do I have to do yet in order to win this round? Just take down the Orcs and kill their wizard? Or is there something else? The scenario objectives text is pretty cryptic.

btw, Dwarven steam tanks rock!

	08-07-2004 05:06									#76
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You're pretty vague there, what's going on in that scenario (it's been a while since I last played it), but anyways 100 turns is a LOT!

I play the game on hard (enemy wizards are emperors instead of puny squires etc ) and I finish a big map in about 50-80 turns depending on the map. Spending more time on 1 turn, but using less turns is more effective btw


Anyway I finally finished the SP campaign today, and what a great campaign it was, with great and original maps and events etc though it was still a bit too easy . Too bad the standard scenarios are always just symmetric maps that are rather predictable, and without the great athmosphere from the campaign...

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quote: Originally posted by Jules Now why did I forget you could rebuild razed cities with a Pioneer? For only a modest investment you can end up with a fully developed city. I could be a lot further along by now.

The devil is in the details.

	09-07-2004 20:57									#78
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Actually I never raze cities at all. It's better that way because even if you can only build a few archers there they can hurt a bigger enemy army that has no flyers or creatures that can scale walls. Also the more cities the enemy has the more he has to divide his army over all those cities. Very often sacrificing a city can open up a nice route to other cities.

In SM there's often razed cities on the map already though, but in a lot of cases you need to build them up from scratch again (they don't have many upgrades to start with)