13-05-2004 01:24									#1
	I'll vote Republican if it will make these terrorists pay. Put an end to popups!

Reflecting on the beheading....

I'll have to bite my tounge on Bush's domestic policy. And yes he has screwed up in Iraq. But is Kerry going to be as effective in dealing with Terrorists? This concerns me quite a bit. Anyone convince me that Kerry can/will do Justice to these fiends?

Next thing Al Qaeda will do is try to behead or set fire to a child. These monsters must be stopped.

These people are not even people, they are demons in the literal sense.

I'm not happy how ineffective Bush has been so far in dealing with the terrorists (Osama is still at large), but I'm afraid that Kerry might do an even worse job. His live and let live policy will lead to horrible things, that Bush has made viable.

	13-05-2004 01:26									#2
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Well, I'm pretty sure Kerry won't invade nations that have nothing to do with the war on terror, which might help some

	13-05-2004 01:26									#3
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Kerry has the spinal cord of jellow. He will say one thing one week, then the next thing another. Kerry would be very ineffective fighting terror, while Bush is effective with dealing with terrorists. Come thorn, don't bullshit me. Can US troops be in every square mile of Afghanistan looking Bin Laden (who probably is in the tribal regions in Pakistan now)?

	13-05-2004 01:28									#4
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It is clear that Iraq has nothing to do with Al-Qaeda or attacks on Americans. It is especially clear given that we are discussing an attack on an American, by Al-Qaeda, in Iraq.

	13-05-2004 01:29									#5
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I'd be happy if they just carpet bombed Afghanastan, it thats what it took to take out Bin Laden.

	13-05-2004 01:32									#6
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quote: Kerry has the spinal cord of jellow.

Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather like to have my spinal CORD to be jellow-like, rather than rigid.

	13-05-2004 01:35									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Thorn I'd be happy if they just carpet bombed Afghanastan, it thats what it took to take out Bin Laden.

They don't even know if Bin Laden is there and you can't carpet bomb it when there is a tunnel of networks leftover from the fighting with the soviets, that won't be hit.

	13-05-2004 01:37									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Jaguar It is clear that Iraq has nothing to do with Al-Qaeda or attacks on Americans. It is especially clear given that we are discussing an attack on an American, by Al-Qaeda, in Iraq.

So when Saudis attacked us in New York, we should assume that New York and Saudi Arabia are responsible?

	13-05-2004 01:41									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Jaguar It is clear that Iraq has nothing to do with Al-Qaeda or attacks on Americans. It is especially clear given that we are discussing an attack on an American, by Al-Qaeda, in Iraq.

Sadaam era Iraq had no connections to AQ. The Jordan chemical weapon WMD foiled plot with AQ trained members in Iraq is proof positive.

	13-05-2004 01:42									#10
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We ought to just level Mecca....

	13-05-2004 01:48									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe Sadaam era Iraq had no connections to AQ. The Jordan chemical weapon WMD foiled plot with AQ trained members in Iraq is proof positive.

You mean trained at Ansar's camps in the NNFZ?

	13-05-2004 01:50									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Thorn We ought to just level Mecca....

yeah, that will make Muslims love us.

	13-05-2004 01:52									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Thorn We ought to just level Mecca....

Well, my humanist education says this isn't the right thing to do. OTOH it could be fun to watch all those pilgrims on the way to Mecca when they realize their holy place has just been flattened.

	13-05-2004 01:52									#14
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Well then give them a good Roman styled Ultimatium, "surrender Al Qaeda or we will level Mecca, your choice."

	13-05-2004 01:53									#15
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quote: Originally posted by The diplomat yeah, that will make Muslims love us.

Well, we leveled how many cities in Germany during World War II? And now how many Germans love us today?

	13-05-2004 01:55									#16
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These people only understand one thing FEAR, and if that's what it take we should make them fear us.

	13-05-2004 01:56									#17
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@MrFun:

	13-05-2004 02:04									#18
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Well, we leveled how many cities in Germany during World War II? And now how many Germans love us today?

Its David Hasselhoff they love, not 'Mericans.

	13-05-2004 02:04									#19
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Honestly, we have to ask ourselves whether it's worth going after the terrorists. So far we've just pissed more people off, which means more terrorists. Think it would discourage them a lot more if we just foiled their attacks and didn't give them any propaganda victories.

	13-05-2004 02:06									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe Its David Hasselhoff they love, not 'Mericans.

DOH

	13-05-2004 02:07									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe Its David Hasselhoff they love, not 'Mericans.

That was really low

	13-05-2004 02:08									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Victor Galis Honestly, we have to ask ourselves whether it's worth going after the terrorists. So far we've just pissed more people off, which means more terrorists. Think it would discourage them a lot more if we just foiled their attacks and didn't give them any propaganda victories.

I strongly disagree -- when we're attacked, it's not enough usually to just fend the attacks off. Go after their own territory and infrastructure to decrease chances of future attacks.

	13-05-2004 02:10									#23
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Well, we leveled how many cities in Germany during World War II? And now how many Germans love us today?

Except the german cities we leveled were not holy sites. Mecca is Islam's greatest Holy site.

	13-05-2004 02:11									#24
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Thorn, vote for whoever you were going to vote for before this happened .. changing your vote gives these people power over your opinion .. chosing to ignore their barbarity is the only way you have to get one up on them.

	13-05-2004 02:12									#25
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Thanks diplomat for being so factual with my joke. I already knew the cultural significance of Mecca.

	13-05-2004 02:16									#26
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun I strongly disagree -- when we're attacked, it's not enough usually to just fend the attacks off. Go after their own territory and infrastructure to decrease chances of future attacks.

But that's what they feed on. Until we can either destroy them with NO collateral damage, and/or get our own propaganda machine in the Arab world, it's pointless.

These aren't countries, these are organizations that have little trouble hiding among innocent civilians who then get hurt and pissed off. This just gives them more support.

	13-05-2004 02:19									#27
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THEN KILL THEM ALL!

	13-05-2004 02:21									#28
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quote: But is Kerry going to be as effective in dealing with Terrorists? This concerns me quite a bit.

And Bush has been effective???

Somebody needs to explain to me how much safer/more secure under Bush we really are, either here or worldwide. Iraq's been a boon for terrorist recruitment, and the number of attacks worldwide has intensified. If that's effective.....

	13-05-2004 02:21									#29
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@ Thorn

	13-05-2004 02:21									#30
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quote: THEN KILL THEM ALL

and that would make us better than the terrorists... how?