18-05-2004 08:13									#61
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui It's a far right wing look at Jesus.

meh.

Only problem with it is it may be anti-semetic, which, thankfully, is no longer a left-right issue. Lots of conservatives stand up to defend Jews. And good for them.

I actually want to see it, though not in a theater surrounderd by a bunch of empassioned Southern Baptists awaiting the resurrection. I'm sure you can sympathyze.

	18-05-2004 08:16									#62
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I'll wait for it to come out on HBO or something. I don't want to pull money in Gibson's pockets for that.

	18-05-2004 08:18									#63
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pull money?

	18-05-2004 08:18									#64
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put... put/pull, whatever

	18-05-2004 08:20									#65
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Sell bootlegs of The Passion to Jesus Freaks and keep the money. That will pull money from Mel's pockets.

	18-05-2004 08:29									#66
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident

Behold!!!!

Unicron!!!!!!!!

	18-05-2004 08:30									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui put... put/pull, whatever

Were you speaking in Reaganese?

	18-05-2004 08:36									#68
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No, Clintonian .

	18-05-2004 08:39									#69
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident

"A wu-hu-hu-hu No A Bush a nudy na Bantha-poodoo! A wu-hu-hu-hu!"

	18-05-2004 09:22									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui No, Clintonian .

same difference

	18-05-2004 10:04									#71
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quote: Originally posted by cinch DOGMA: BoxOffice: 30mil ProductionBudget: 10mil Marketing: 12mil Profit: 8mil BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE: BoxOffice: 57mil ProductionBudget: 3mil Marketing: unknown Profit: ~40-50mil ___________________________ By what reasoning do you arrive at the conclusion that FAHRENHEIT 9/11 will make less than DOGMA?

Thanks for finding that.

	18-05-2004 12:12									#72
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quote: if it can be proven that he eats poor people to sustain his weight, then he will lose credibility...

Even if he doesn't, how does this bode for all his leftist supporters who decry over-consumption by US consumers? If people who drive SUV's are bad for consuming more oil, wouldn't that standard apply to Michael Moore's over-consumption of food?

	18-05-2004 12:33									#73
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I wonder if Moore is going to make a documentary about protecting whales for his next project? It would be in his self-interest...

	18-05-2004 13:02									#74
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quote: Originally posted by Sava I love listening to the Moore-hating morons. These pathetic dopes can't muster an intelligent response to the facts Moore presents so they attack his weight and call him names. It's almost more interesting to listen to Moore-haters than to read or watch Moore's works. These haters represent the lowest common denominator of stupidity... they often watch FOXNews and vote Republican. I love watching them squirm and froth at the mouth when confronted with the facts.

do we need any further proof Sava should earn the troll of the year award for Apolyton?

	18-05-2004 13:05									#75
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okay, if someone quotes my picture one more time, well... I'll give them a cookie.

	18-05-2004 13:47									#76
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Hey, Michael Moore, you fat ****! No soup for you!

	18-05-2004 13:59									#77
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Just remember that Disney doesn't like to rock the boat, but that doesn't mean they're afraid of offending Republicans.

And remember Moore's track record indicates this new film will be a hit and rake in lots of profit which of course is one thing that Disney can't stand: a money-making box office hit.

	18-05-2004 14:36									#78
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there, I adjusted my avatar accordingly.

although it seems so small. Why do some people have larger avatars? the limit is 80 X 80 isn't it?

	18-05-2004 15:28									#79
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident I heard the white house said Mel Gibson would not get any white house visits if a company he has a lot of control over released this movie. Anyways, Moore has vowed to release this movie before the election. I kind of hope he can do it. Although I think he's a big, fat, idiot.

I'm sure that the people who watch Michael Moore videos within a few days of their release will be undecided voters, so the timing will have huge effects on the election outcome.

	18-05-2004 15:42									#80
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He should spend less on food and more on acquiring a better toupée.

And for God's sake stay clear of amateur Sumo.

	18-05-2004 17:39									#81
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quote: By what reasoning do you arrive at the conclusion that FAHRENHEIT 9/11 will make less than DOGMA?

By the fact you chose to include only the US gross for Dogma but include worldwide earnings for Bowling to inflate your numbers.

	18-05-2004 17:43									#82
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Bruce owned the rig. Hell, even Ben Affleck could quit his job and within a week start his own fully operational deep sea rig. They were all capitalists.

John,

No arguement they were capitalists. The statement was they were oil executives.

I suppose one could make the arguement as Defiant pointed out as owner Willis could be considered an exec. Executive usually infers some form of organization beuracracy tho. And as the movie didn't go into whether that existed you needed to infer from his blue collar background and attitude that most likely that did not exist.

So from a right vs. left wing perspective you have a view that this is a self starter but is not tied to any form of conventional corporate ties.

Couple this with the fact that the anti-establishment themes that run through the movie (hence the reason for the rebellion against the accepted normalcy of Green Peace, the government, and the military). Now one can argue that anti-establishment sentiments are not the province of either the left or the right considereing fringe rightists like the armed militias of Montana etc.

All in all the movie did not impress me as either right or left.

As an aside it is an intersting point on the take that capitalists are an underdog to a point. The little struggling shop keeper is absolutely the underdog and is worthy of admiration and support up until the point he is successful. Once he transforms his interests into a largish company all of a sudden those attributes that propelled him there are the essence of evil incarnate.

As 'everyone' knows from an evil perspective, a capitalist is a great thing up until the point he is successful.

Which perpetuates the socialist mantra " The only good capitalist is an unsuccessful one."

	18-05-2004 17:49									#83
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident there, I adjusted my avatar accordingly. although it seems so small. Why do some people have larger avatars? the limit is 80 X 80 isn't it?

ApolytonPLUS members get larger avatars if they so choose.

	18-05-2004 17:52									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe Which perpetuates the socialist mantra " The only good capitalist is an unsuccessful one."

That's a socialist mantra? Weird, you'd think I'd heard them all before now. Huh.

	18-05-2004 17:53									#85
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident there, I adjusted my avatar accordingly. although it seems so small. Why do some people have larger avatars? the limit is 80 X 80 isn't it?

Don't sign up for ApolytonPlus, there is only so much Moore we can take.

	18-05-2004 17:54									#86
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara That's a socialist mantra? Weird, you'd think I'd heard them all before now. Huh.

Hey you learn something every day.

	18-05-2004 17:54									#87
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe Don't sign up for ApolytonPlus, there is only so much Moore we can take.

Chuckle. Chuckle.

	18-05-2004 17:54									#88
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AUGH!!!!

	18-05-2004 18:11									#89
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meh

	18-05-2004 18:32									#90
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Isn't Moore rich enough to establish his own distribution company? I think he wants to be boycotted so he could use that to bash large corporations.

Anyway, he said in an interview that he encouraged "breaking the law" by people distributing the movie in digital form (I guess he meant in P2P networks).