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Jamski is offline Jamski
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Yes, its back, the Apolyton Game of the Month!

To take part simply place the attached file in the scenarios folder of your SMAC installation, and select "Play Scenario" from the main menu.

When you're done, post up your findings and results here using the [spoiler] tags and any tips for people getting hammered. There will of course be the usual bragging rights for the ones getting the highest scores and fastest wins, as well as the right to design the next GOTM should they so wish.

As this is the May/June game, it will run at least till the end of June. Who says we can't have longer months?

About the May-June Game

If you'd rather be surprised, stop reading now!

The Unity had enough escape pods for every faction to have two for the emergency landing on Planet. Unfortunately the pods launched from the starboard side of the ship had their nav-consoles scrambled, and landed on the wrong side of Planet's central ocean, the Mittelmer Sea.

Each faction has two pods, placed opposite each other on a (very roughly) doughnut shaped continent, sandwiched between aggressive neighbours. In order to dominate Planet, the best action leaders will find a way to join the two halfs of their factions as soon as possible.

All normal rules are in effect, the difficulty is Transcend, and the starting faction is the University. Unfortunatly both of your colony teams thought the other team had the free tech, so it got lost somewhere.

As mentioned by Obstructor - this is a SMAC game. Playing it in SMAX will get some strange results, which you can read about here in this thread.

Have fun, and watch out for the mindworms!

-Jam

Last edited by Jamski on 23-05-2004 at 15:13

Maniac is offline Maniac
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Great initiative!

I just download though, and I noticed you forgot to reset the factions in the scenario menu. As a consequence currently the factions have no SE boni or mali.

Jamski is offline Jamski
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Crap. I'll fix it.

-Jam

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Here is the fixed file

-Jam

Attachment: apolyton game of the month may-june 2004.zip
This has been downloaded 32 time(s).

Darsnan is offline Darsnan
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Dec 2001
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the starting faction is the University. Unfortunatly both of your colony teams thought the other team had the free tech, so it got lost somewhere.
-Jam


Silly eggheads!

I look forward to playing this, Jamski!


D

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the starting faction is the University. Unfortunatly both of your colony teams thought the other team had the free tech, so it got lost somewhere.
-Jam


Silly eggheads!

I look forward to playing this GOTM!


D

Illuminatus is offline Illuminatus
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Jul 2003
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I see you added some units with graphics Darsnan used. Is scenario buggy? When I reach a certain point it causes an error in terran.exe and game crashes. When I replay the turn, the same thing again. This has happened on three various occasions again .

Jamski is offline Jamski
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You must just be doing something odd. I'm playing it without any problems (apart from bloody Yang)

-Jam

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Is this SMAC or SMAX? We win by having unified territory, by normal means?

Illuminatus is offline Illuminatus
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Is producing crawlers odd?

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Yes.
So is producing formers,
and building bases.

Have fun.

Jamski is offline Jamski
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quote:
Is this SMAC or SMAX? We win by having unified territory, by normal means?


By normal means, in SMAC with latest patch. All victory conditions are open.

Obstructor, it sounds like you have that error where you change the energy production of a tile while crawling it, which causes the map data to corrupt.

-Jam

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thanks for the initiative!

Jamski is offline Jamski
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I may have made it a bit tricky for some people.

I just got my arse busted in 2203 by an alliance of Lal, Santiago and Dee

The AI are REALLY out for blood

-Jam

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Well done Jamski. I guess this is what deities/gods do in their soare time.

CEO Aaron is offline CEO Aaron
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Aug 2002
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Cool, I can't wait to inflict my poorly-thought out strategies on this scenario. Just one question: Blind or Guided research?

GeoModder is offline GeoModder
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Just downloaded it. I'll check it out later...

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Okay, WAY too hard. I get run over instantly by my aggressive and annoying neighbors. There's not even enough time to get my first 4 formers out.

Maniac is offline Maniac
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Then build four laser rovers instead? (Just a suggestion - haven't played it myself, so I don't know at all what I'm talking about. )

Chaunk is offline Chaunk
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Hmm this is quite good fun... I like being forced off my favourate beelines, and the ai aren't that hard to contain.

Kudos Jamski

Now I just hope I can finish the blighter...

Jamski is offline Jamski
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You can't sit and beeline for IA->treefarms like a nice builder Uni. The Spartans WILL come calling, and they can only be bought off for so long.

Hell, I'm on my 3rd restart

-Jam

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Tried it, no fun IMO. I hate it when someone fiddles with the 'betray shamefully' options...

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Well - i got to 2220, treating it almost as 2 base OCC. I had missile infantrymen, and was busy building my perim defenses when Santiago came calling - 9 units to HQ and 7 to New Arzamas. I engame with my missiles at both bases, and then she says the "wastes resources - let us truce" speech. I comply, then whammo, next turn I'm toast.

Reload the previous turn and this time refuse the truce, and all she does is move up around 4 more units each base then attacks - either way I was gone by 2220

Back to the tactics drawing board

G.

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I hate it when someone fiddles with the 'betray shamefully' options...


GM: it wouldn't be too bad if they did exhibit shame and remorse it's the shameless faction leaders that I hate

GGLIE

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2 base OCC.

n1 Googlie.

Jamski is offline Jamski
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Maybe this is too much of a challenge then If even Googlie is getting slammed...

BTW the AI has no extra boosts or bonus terrain etc. I just tweaked the agressession, and laid out the map "fairly" Each AI faction starts, just as you do, with two pods on opposite sides of the sea. The side effect of putting what is equivalent to 14 factions on a standard size map though... well...

-Jam

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In fairness, in 2156 I'm unsurpassed, leader in tech, and 4 away from D:AP. I don't think it's too hard... certainly beatable. (Possibly famous last words...)

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Well, it may be do-able. I'm at 2200, have had D:AP for some 30 years, and have a fleet of a dozen or so Missile noodles. I've taken 2 of Sparta's bases and 1 of Lal's (the latter having sensibly sued for peace - for the time being, I guess)

I'm in Vendetta with Sparta, Miriam and Dee, and in an uneasy truce with Yang (who has a mindworm of all things sitting next to one of my bases - to threaten me, I assume, but it's doing a valiant job of beating off maurauding native mindworms!!). I've pretty much stopped Lal's expansion - he just has 2 bases. Morgan is obviously a threat, but isn't on the same continent.

It's a good test of trying a different strategy.

Learning from my 2 prior abortive attempts I went this time for a beeline to D:AP and missile rovers, as well as diversifying early on to the ocean - I have 12 bases (3 captured, and of my original 9, 3 are seabases (well, 1 is now landlocked since aforesaid Yang mindworm unleashed an earthquake - luckily I had no naval units in that base)

I refused to trade anything, ever, with the AI, so got and maintained a comfortable tech lead. I didn't waste any effort in getting SP's (altho now I am part way thru both the Citizens Defense and the Command Nexus - I figure that they'll both be useful for the facilities they give.

I also ignored Ind Auto. In my 2 previous tries I never lasted long enough to even build a cralwer, so I figured that I'd leave that line of research until later.

Oh, and I did make liberal use of nervestapling - 4 bases if I recall - was using my builds to produce missile rovers and noodles and couldn't invest in rec commons.

Crucial stage right now as I'm trying to make Corrie part with Bunker118 - inside the Ruins. That'll be a strategic capture for me if I can get that and hold it.

(I tried to upload and link a screenshot of the power graph, but there's summat funny with the 'Poly download system right now)

G.

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I was doing really well up to MY 2200 or so, leader in everything blah blah...

I had 4 bases on the southern rim, fighting a holding action vs Santi, Lal and Yang, while in the north my offense had taken me as far as Mount Planet and Sunny Mesa.

Since they all hated me anyway, my X-Missile Rovers and X-Missile Noodles gassed any enemies outside of bases, and it was all going smoothly.

I was nearly finished learning MMI as well

Then my gassing came back to haunt me.

All the AI declared vendetta, except Santi, who I eliminated the turn before. I had 8 *pop*s all at once, and sea levels rose 996 metres.

Great, I thought.

Next turn, another half-a-dozen *pop*s and another 966 metres. I was worm raped and drowned into nothing within 2 turns.

Owch.

I'll have to try again from a save in about 2165 and take it slower without gas this time.

Like Googlie, there was no time for crawlers before the first skirmish, which was resolved by probing half the attackers to my side.

I've created a monster!

My score - the benchmark to beat so far - 23

-Jam

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LOL - J - is that as in minus 23?

Oh - and here's the power graph from my 2220 save.

 
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