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Jamski is offline Jamski
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Sorry, but I didn't even read your useless biased opinions.

You lack perspective.

Goodbye.

-Jam

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You forgot to mention how the Palestinians throw huge parties to celebrate killing pregnant Israeli women, and how the Palestinian gunmen hold the children in front of them as shields, and if their kids survive they throw them under the tracks of tanks to martyrise them and and and how even the monkeys in Palestinian territory are taught to be terrorists, forcing the honourable Israelis to knock down their zoos in a display of self-defence.

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Pssst... and the terrorist houses that had to be knocked down today

-Jam

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Originally posted by Jamski
Sorry, but I didn't even read your useless biased opinions.

You lack perspective.

Goodbye.

-Jam


I think even more people are starting to think the same way about you

Sirotnikov is offline Sirotnikov
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Sorry, but I didn't even read your useless biased opinions.

Now that's a troll when you see one.

And a healthy tactic in discussions too.

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You forgot to mention how the Palestinians throw huge parties to celebrate killing pregnant Israeli women

That actually happens.

quote:
and how the Palestinian gunmen hold the children in front of them as shields, and if their kids survive they throw them under the tracks of tanks to martyrise them and and and how even the monkeys in Palestinian territory are taught to be terrorists, forcing the honourable Israelis to knock down their zoos in a display of self-defence.


A kindergarden graduation ceremony held in 2001, which was attended by 1650 children of the "Islamic society" kindergartens along with thousands of guests, including their mothers. The ceremony took place at the"Islamic society" center in the al-Shati refugee camp, Gaza strip.

http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm....ipMediaID=19650

more training
http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm....ipMediaID=18959


palestinian tv excerpts:

http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm....ipMediaID=23926

http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm....ipMediaID=25156

http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm....ipMediaID=19647

Last edited by Sirotnikov on 23-05-2004 at 04:33

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How about :
"scenes from terrorist attacks" as displayed by Hamas in a Nablus university:

http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm....ipMediaID=18919

The setting simulates the Sbarro pizza restaurant, a scene of several consequtive terrorist attacks in Jerusalem.

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Sorry, but your opinions are so predictable that I don't need to read them. They're almost racist, but that's a line I don't want to step over.

For the same reason I would discount the opinions of a Hamas millitant.

If you want to know if a book is any good, you don't ask the author.

-Jam

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I challenge you to find one racist quote.

I hope you are amused by all this. Have I tickled your fancy?

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Like I said - I don't want to step over that line.

Fancy not tickled Optimism in humanity crushed

-Jam

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So Jamski, I guess if you can't come up with facts, you just attack the posters... That's not a game we play around here.

Discuss the topic... not the posters... or you are going to find a healthy PCR and a long restriction waiting for you.

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I believe that the U.N. should be used to enforce the treaty instead of Isreal soldiers.

Yes, like they are safely securing the Israeli Lebanese borders and preventing terrorist attacks.
Right.
That UN?
You mean the UN which folded its tail between its legs and ran away from Iraq?
That god d*mn f*cking b*tch?
I'm talking about the U.N. that fought in North Korea. Like I said, if it's not working the way it should fix it. The only way to get peace is through an unbiased 3rd party.
How exactly did the U.N. run from Iraq. By refusing to bend to the will of President Bush. It seems like the U.N. stood up for itself instead of becoming a lackey.

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that what israel does is ethnic cleansing there is no mistake about. that the US supports it and that withjout it it wouldnt happen it i also clear (support, guns, aid etc)


1,600 people were left homeless from the latest ethnic cleansing by israel. first tanks then the buldozers.

arabs tried to attack it but couldnt do it. now they attack it differenty.

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Yes, we see the UN blue helmets securing Iraq, and UN holding support actions for Iraq.

Oh wait.... they folded their offices and ran away.

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*sigh*

I'd like to discuss the topic, if only people would be more open to having their ideas challenged. As it is, they seem to be more interested in how the debate is debated, than in the fundamental truth of my position.

I guess I should stick to threads about movies or sport. Less chance of treading on people's toes that way.

Close my thread will you Ming? Then I won't be tempted. The PCR I can live with - the restriction is a bit more daunting.

* * * * *

The End ?

-Jam

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I'm talking about the U.N. that fought in North Korea.
That was the US.

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Gee... wasn't it the Arabs that have always struck first and often... and since they were too weak now resort to bombing innocent children and women...

and the Pals have as their charter the elimination of Israel... a policy of ethnic cleansiing...

So... your point? Both sides are wrong...

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I'd like to have my ideas challenged.

But your posts seem to lack any challenging ideas or any facts what so ever.


Challenge this, why don't you:


A kindergarden graduation ceremony held in 2001, which was attended by 1650 children of the "Islamic society" kindergartens along with thousands of guests, including their mothers. The ceremony took place at the"Islamic society" center in the al-Shati refugee camp, Gaza strip.
http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm....ipMediaID=19650

more training
http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm....ipMediaID=18959

palestinian tv excerpts:
http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm....ipMediaID=23926
http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm....ipMediaID=25156
http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm....ipMediaID=19647

How about :
"scenes from terrorist attacks" as displayed by Hamas in a Nablus university:
http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm....ipMediaID=18919
The setting simulates the Sbarro pizza restaurant, a scene of several consequtive terrorist attacks in Jerusalem.

Ming is offline Ming
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Originally posted by Jamski
*sigh*

I'd like to discuss the topic, if only people would be more open to having their ideas challenged.


They are as open as you seem to be

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Yes, we see the UN blue helmets securing Iraq, and UN holding support actions for Iraq.

Oh wait.... they folded their offices and ran away.
Question!!!!!
Why would the U.N. be expected to support President Bush's decision to invade Iraq. I.E. be involved in securing Iraq. The fact that the Iraqi's attacked the U.N. offices does not justify the U.N. supporting President Bush in his decision.
You seem to not have a timeline available. You cannot use as justification something that happens after the initial action. The action was the invasion of Iraq. The reaction has been the resistance to occupation that includes the attack on the U.N. The current situation in WB/Gaza is a reaction to the Isreali occupation. You seem to be confused when it comes to cause and effect.
The recommendation for U.N. involvement in West Bank and gaza is about savings Isreal's ass because it's clear they have no clue how to get out of that situation.
All of your statements I have read do not seem to be racist. They seem to be pro-isreali to the point of being blind. I wish that your people, the palestinians, and the whole middle east, muslim, arab, christian communities could learn to live in peace.

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That was the US.
True
but it was under the guise of the U.N.
At this point we need someone to go in and crack the heads of both sides until they start acting right.

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It sounds as if all parties have agreed to Isreal's right to exist. So that really should be a non issue.

Utter excrement. Agreeing to Israel's right to exist would be to renounce any claim to the right of return, as that would effectively end Israel's existence. The parties you refer to here are not 'all parties'. Go to a Fatah website. Or a Hamas one. See what 'all parties' truly have to say.

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Israeli actions are indefensible because they are in the wrong. The fact that a few Palestinians revenge themselves on civilians is neither here nor their. You simply cannot deprive an entire people of their property, dignity and civil rights and expect them not to come after you with knives and bombs. And compared to the dispossession and death suffered by the Palestinians, Israeli casualties have been negligible.


Maybe you can expect them to do so causally, but you sure as hell can't morally.

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No they don't. Buy a dictionary.

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quote:
com·bat·ant

n. One, such as a person or a combat vehicle, that takes part in armed strife.

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I'm talking about the U.N. that fought in North Korea.


That was pretty much the US, and it was nearly fifty years ago.

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Actually, the Israelis are citizens of America, if anything.


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I'm talking about the U.N. that fought in North Korea. Like I said, if it's not working the way it should fix it. The only way to get peace is through an unbiased 3rd party.
How exactly did the U.N. run from Iraq. By refusing to bend to the will of President Bush. It seems like the U.N. stood up for itself instead of becoming a lackey.


Unfortunately, the UN that fought in Korea died shortly thereafter, nearly fifty years ago.

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It's not a troll, it's response to the Mad Monks absurd claim that the Palestinians belong in Jordan. I don't actually believe it.

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It's not a troll, it's response to the Mad Monks absurd claim that the Palestinians belong in Jordan. I don't actually believe it.


Whose territory was it prior to 1967?

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Whose territory was it prior to 1967?


So you support ethnic cleansing? It's acceptable to clear captured territories of their inhabitants (either by force or by making their lives intolerable) and replace them with your own?

I should again point out that Zionists never tire of pointing out how much the Arab world loathes the Palestinians, and how Jordan is not exactly a land of opportunity compared to California.

 
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