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Casnewydd, Cymru
Aug 2002
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The 40 Hour Workweek
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.


Category: Social Justice
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Free Soviets

Description:
1. The maximum standard full-time workweek shall be set at 40 hours. Nations shall remain free to set their workweeks lower than this.

2. No one may be contractually obligated to work more than 40 hours per week, except for the following exemptions,
a ) military personnel
b ) civil defense forces
c ) civilian emergency response personnel
Excepting military personnel, these exemptions shall only apply during emergency situations.

3. No one may be contractually obligated to remain on the worksite without pay.

4. On call hours shall count against the 40 hour limit.

5. Work exceeding 40 hours per week that is voluntarily undertaken shall not exceed a total of 80 hours per week, and shall be paid at a rate of at least time and a half or an equivalent pro-rata time off in lieu. Nations shall remain free to set their allowable overtime hours lower and their overtime pay rates higher than specified in this proposal.

6. The 40 hour week shall be implemented in a manner that does not reduce the standard of living of the workers. Nations shall enact the laws needed to comply with the 40 hour week within 1 year of the passing of this resolution and they may phase in the changes over the course of up to 4 years. The necessary changes must be fully implemented within 5 years of the passing of this resolution.

7. In time of declared emergencies the national government may suspend this directive to any sector of the workforce it deems essential to the effective running of the country for the duration of that emergency.

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The Cerooan government will be debating this resolution, but it is expected that the COnservative majority will ensure Ceroo's position is AGAINST.

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Centralis is strongly FOR this resolution.

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Feb 2001
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Guardinia is undecided. We agree to the principle of having regulations on work hours and minimum pay, but the current resolution seems kind of "nit-picky" in this regard.

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Apr 2000
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Azan is for this, as we've implemented it a lot of time ago, but we think that a more suitable 44-hour week proposal will gather sweeping approval.

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Jonchastan is strongly in favour of the motion. It is only the greed of the capitalist class that prevents these minimum standards from being adopted.

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It is only the greed of the capitalist class that prevents these minimum standards from being adopted.


That's why our Conservative government is against

Cerooan business interests will be hampered if such a resolution passes.
Should the resolution pass, we will, of course, introduce an 'opt-out' for individuals who wish to ignore the resolution and work as many hours as they like in per week. (as the UK has done with EU legislation in RL)

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The Republic of Ming Tran, though intrigued by this idea and understanding its merits, feels that this measure would hurt developing economies like our own and will be voting against such a measure.


Elisabeth Chan,
Regional Delegate to the UN for the Republic of Ming Tran.


Read about the legend of Clem the Bewildered.

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[ooc: great story, xiaodave! We need to get you making maps (and joining in the roleplay more) here too! You should put that link in your signature file, though... ]

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That's why our Conservative government is against

Cerooan business interests will be hampered if such a resolution passes.
Should the resolution pass, we will, of course, introduce an 'opt-out' for individuals who wish to ignore the resolution and work as many hours as they like in per week. (as the UK has done with EU legislation in RL)


Well, you might be legally allowed to do that... if not for the fact that there is no provision for any such 'opt-out' in the resolution, which states that the resules apply to everyone apart from a few, quite specific exceptions. This was quite deliberate on the part of the resolution writers.

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5. Work exceeding 40 hours per week that is voluntarily undertaken shall not exceed a total of 80 hours per week, and shall be paid at a rate of at least time and a half or an equivalent pro-rata time off in lieu. Nations shall remain free to set their allowable overtime hours lower and their overtime pay rates higher than specified in this proposal.


The voluntary opt-out is included in the resolution.

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Well, if Ceroo really wants to pay all their employees permanent overtime wages, they can... they just shouldn't complain when they bankrupt themselves.

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quote:
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[ooc: great story, xiaodave! We need to get you making maps (and joining in the roleplay more) here too! You should put that link in your signature file, though... ]



I made a map!!

Im working on a political history of Ming Tran now as a start off point for my nations rp. Alot of the rp here seems to be military in nature and unfortunately a 100 identically cloned replicants of my entire military could be squashed as an afterthought of many of the 2.4-2.9 billion people nations here.

I dont have a signiture file yet

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The roleplay is dominated by the situation in Azan, but there's plenty of other threads that people have been using for roleplay. Just start one up for your own nation.

As for signature... is there a "no signature for settlers" rule?

I thought you just went to control panel --> edit profile --> signature and just typed in what you wanted.

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quote:
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The roleplay is dominated by the situation in Azan, but there's plenty of other threads that people have been using for roleplay. Just start one up for your own nation.

As for signature... is there a "no signature for settlers" rule?

I thought you just went to control panel --> edit profile --> signature and just typed in what you wanted.


I definately will start an rp, I just want to finish my nations historical detail first. As for the signiture I just havent gotten around to it, these things must be planned carefully you know.

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Everyone of working age in The United Good is an member of the Brethren. We are quite satisfied with our People's Paridise as it is. We do not have a traditional capitalist economy with Workers and Corperations.

How your governments define "workers" continues to amuse us - for instance will parents raising children as their job be limited to working with the children 40 hours per week - including on-call times ?!? ... or are they not considered as contributors to your economies...

There are times and situations that such rules cannot account for - harvest time in the agricultural sector as another example. These rules are meaningless to us; we will not abide by these rules.

We have always believed in the credo - "To each according to their needs; from each according to their ability."

Brother James - on behalf of the Most Sagacious and Beatific Uncle Sparky.

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Auldonina already has a 35 hour workweek, but most actualy working 48 hours on double time

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Paliament suprisingly opted to vote for the resolution on the 40-hour week by just two votes. Members of the CI party (in Coalition with the Conservative government) plus some Conservative 'back-benchers' opted for a for vote, infuriating First Minister Morgan who stormed out of the chamber at the end of Parliaments' morning session.
It is believed ministers who voted against the government had voted in line with public opinion in their districts.

Minister Ceroo, leader of the CI Party commented: "If the resolution does require to be implemented it would not harm Cerooan business as much as feared- it may, indirectly help reduce unemployment, especially in the heavy-industrial areas on Isla Cynnon, like Newport. We are expecting employers to hire more staff rather that pay extortionate overtime rates".
He added that "business on Isla d'Ibia and the Apolyton mainland, do not come under the resolution's effect as they are subject to the laws of the San Antonio Bay council, which the UN regards as a seperate entity to Ceroo". It is expected that some companies may relocate to take advantage of this. When asked whether this UN resolution would cause the minimum-wage laws to be abolished, Minister Ceroo declined to comment on the governments' position, but stated that "the CI party supported the minimum wage when it was introduced under the last government and there is no change to that opinion at this time..."

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UN Members' Votes

FOR: (5)
Centralis
Jonchastan
New Azan
Ceroo
North Texas

AGAINST: (4)
Azure Dianoga
Jhardine
Ming Tran
The United Good

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In accordance with regional opinion a FOR vote has been registered with the UN.

(I will check in tomorrow just before cut-off in case there are any more votes...)

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Paliament suprisingly opted to vote for the resolution on the 40-hour week by just two votes. Members of the CI party (in Coalition with the Conservative government) plus some Conservative 'back-benchers' opted for a for vote, infuriating First Minister Morgan who stormed out of the chamber at the end of Parliaments' morning session.
It is believed ministers who voted against the government had voted in line with public opinion in their districts.


Hmmm... is labour law considered important enough in Ceroo that this will be treated as a non-confidence vote in the new government?

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Auldonina is to implement new radical changesd to encourage the 30 hr week, minimum 4 weeks holiday a year plus a long service holdiday after 10 years of 12 weeks extra holiday.

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Auldonina is to implement new radical changesd to encourage the 30 hr week, minimum 4 weeks holiday a year plus a long service holdiday after 10 years of 12 weeks extra holiday.


fantastic - just fantastic

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