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Do we want raz to continuethe monthly lists
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| Yes, They are great! |
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| Yes, But need to be extended for all posters. |
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12.50% |
| Yes, but only for certai posters above a set post count |
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| No, Jamski says they are jsut for Spamming |
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| No, poor Raz needs a rest anyway |
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Snowflake
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falling, once again
Apr 2003 time: 23:36
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark
Now why would you feel that way
Jamski has a point though, he DOES post a lot of really helpful stuff in many forums. OTOH, Im not sure that just because a post isnt in Community, proves its not spam. Ive heard things about the Rec Commons in SMAC, for example....... |
You as well as others might have heard about the Rec Commons most probably because of me. I used every opportunity to criticize Jamski and Skanky for their drinking feast there. And they heard me, and they are not doing it now. The Rec Commons is still a thread for light hearted chattings, but posters are more self constrainted and the thread is filled less with posts with mere +1s.
I agree with many that the purpose we are here is to have a good time. If you feel your post will bring something useful to others, be it a helping hand with strategies, or a light hearted comment that could make somebody laugh, by no means post it. If you are posting your post because you want to get one more post count, please remember, there are things that people who actually read posts will notice, that is outside of the number of post counts.
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Last Conformist
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of Calakmul
Jul 2003 time: 06:36
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski
Firstly I find it extremely insulting to be called a spammer. Spam posts are posts you ignore, spam e-mail is deleted without being read, spam mail goes straight into the bin. By calling someone a spammer you are saying that their posts are worthless - that they are posting for the sake of getting more posts, or that their posts are lacking in any intrinsic worth. |
Like it or not, people are using "spam" to refer to plentiful short posts of questionably on-topicness.
quote: So. I'll start by asking nicely, but my crusade against spam has begun. It will not be halted. I saw what happened on other forums when spam was allowed to run unchecked too long, and I spoke against it then, but was ignored. The forum almost died. I won't let it happen to the forum I love. |
Not allow?
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I don't want to tell the mods how to do their job, but the best idea would be to move these lists to the OTF. We can have the same discussion - but I'll bet you my last Euro there is HALF the posts in a lists thread in the OT and from more different people when no one gets a +1 from commenting on other people getting +1s.
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Here, I actually agree with you. Seems like something that rather belongs in OTF.quote:
There. My piece is said. Thankyou for your time, and don't point the Finger of Spam my way. You know who you are. |
* Last Conformist points Finger of Spam at Jamski.
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duke o' york

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Now and again I think of something funny relating to what I've just read and feel the need to share with 'polytubbies also reading that thread. This will often amount to little more than a one-liner, but if I deem it worthy of posting then I'll make the post, regardless of whether others might consider it spam or not.
I totally agree that there is no need for single smiley posts. If you can't express yourself in language then why bother? The smilies are meant to add a little colour to the posts, to get across a tone of voice that does not come across when you're just posting messages to an internet forum. You know you're joking when you make the post, but it's far more sensible to include a smiley so that they don't get offended by it.
You're all spammers, everyone's a spammer. 
See? 
The most spammy posts I've made have been in Hangman, with many of but a single letter. This is vital to the game (it'd be pretty dumb if you had to explain why you'd chosen each letter when you guessed), and can't be avoided, so maybe it would be better if Hangman was rehomed to the OT. However, the game would drop like a stone there, and rah approved the rules so that no-one can post too often in the thread. It seems to be running fine so far.  
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DarkCloud
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of Lists
Jul 2000 time: 05:36
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You know, personally, I hate to say this but I'm on the side of the people who were absolutely disgusted by the May Threads.
People talking about how they are going to 'spam' to get to deity is just disgusting. It gives posters like myself, who are obsessed with post counts but attempt to achieve them legitimately and who find people posting +1 and just spewing trash annoying, a bad reputation. Inane conversation revolving merely around 'well, I need to spam more' serves no purpose and really should achieve a 10% PCR reduction if not more. It wastes bandwith and people's time to read.
I find the lists interesting and intriguing and study them as best I can. What I don't find interesting and intriguing is how posters devalue the threads by posting trash in them.
In the old days, threads such as Provost Harrison's guild of emperor's listing all the emperors and my own Apolyton Army listing PPD were looked down upon by the moderators and very nearly found themselves shut as 'club threads' and as encouraging 'spam'. Nowadays, people talk about post count all the time- and while that is good- their talk isn't about where they are posting... or how long until they get to a level (which is legitimate discussion) but no, instead it is 'I need to post more just to achieve a level"... and even that's all right- but the same **@# idiot posts the same #*#% thing every three posts. THAT serves no purpose. And is just redundant.
Well, that's just my two cents.
PS: Please keep doing the lists Rasputin, I love them 
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Kalius
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Kriegsgewitter
Aug 2002 time: 16:36
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quote: You know, personally, I hate to say this but I'm on the side of the people who were absolutely disgusted by the May Threads.
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I find it atrocious that people can abuse a system, which is designed not to show who can make the most inane comments as opposed to who has made pertinent comments, to inflate their own egos.
Apropos of the subordinate clause in the above statement, it is all good and well when there is the occassional funny post, but discussing how to spam, and how to get around the moderators is something I thought I left behind in primary school.
Now, I'm not the most active poster, but such flagrant abuse of a system undermines the entire point, and makes me slide slightly more toward scrapping titles all together.
Having said that, there is nothing wrong with the lists, as they are informative. Lists sans "how to spam" comments are what I would like to see.
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Comrade Tassadar
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quote: Originally posted by Kalius
I find it atrocious that people can abuse a system, which is designed not to show who can make the most inane comments |
Actually, to be truthful, the system is designd to show who can make the most inane comments. There isnt an "average post length" counter or anysuch, only a post counter.
Obviously, those who post more posts have a higher postcount.
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