27-05-2004 12:49									#1
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i just want to be worthy of love

	27-05-2004 12:50									#2
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alright dude what the hell is going on

	27-05-2004 13:04									#3
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Agreed.

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hes fat.

	27-05-2004 13:08									#5
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Date didn't go well, I take it?

	27-05-2004 13:12									#6
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hey, at least you are not me.

that alone should cheer you up

	27-05-2004 13:13									#7
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dammit speer what kind of hit and run posting crap is this

	27-05-2004 13:21									#8
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i bet hes drowning his sorrow in a supersize frys right now

	27-05-2004 13:22									#9
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i dont understand why i was created with this face that repulses women... this speech that bothers women... this soul that disgusts women... and yet i was created with a heart constantly yearning for love.

and why is it that every day i live in fear that tonight, I will be laying on the concrete in a puddle of my blood, some bullet-torn part of my body burning because some one wanted my wallet? I will die on some street without a woman saying those sweet words that every ounce of my being years for, "I love you, Ramsey". Every day I am scared to die before i feel love.

	27-05-2004 13:25									#10
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you sound like me when i was 15 or 16

	27-05-2004 13:32									#11
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yeah but that was just last year

	27-05-2004 13:37									#12
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Speer-

I can empathize with you. All I can say is that perseverance pays off eventually. Keep kicking a**.

	27-05-2004 13:38									#13
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word

don't be a punk and give up

get back in the game

jordan didn't make varsity the first time he tried out

if your jumper is off then work on it till you HIT IT

	27-05-2004 13:43									#14
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Listen to Ted. He knows what he's talking about.

(Helped my a** out when I was down.)



Thanks man.

	27-05-2004 13:45									#15
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yall dont understand. there is a very high probability I will die tomorrow night... or the next night... or the next night. i could be gunned down or hit by a stray. god damn i can not live like this anymore. i'm scared i will die. and die before i am loved.

it doesnt make sense... girls say that i'm so nice and sweet and any girl would be lucky to be with me... they say girls that dont like me are idiots who dont know what they're missing... and yet these same girls don't want to be with me. all the time random girls on the street say that i look so cute and so sexy... girls who see photos of me taken by their friends ask about that cute guy. and yet, no one loves me

	27-05-2004 13:46									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Frankychan Listen to Ted. He knows what he's talking about. (Helped my a** out when I was down.) Thanks man.

	27-05-2004 13:47									#17
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don't be a punk and give up, ted? I'm fighting against time. it's only a matter of time before i have a shell lodged in my stomach or a bullet in my head.

	27-05-2004 13:50									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer yall dont understand. there is a very high probability I will die tomorrow night... or the next night... or the next night. i could be gunned down or hit by a stray. god damn i can not live like this anymore. i'm scared i will die. and die before i am loved. it doesnt make sense... girls say that i'm so nice and sweet and any girl would be lucky to be with me... they say girls that dont like me are idiots who dont know what they're missing... and yet these same girls don't want to be with me. all the time random girls on the street say that i look so cute and so sexy... girls who see photos of me taken by their friends ask about that cute guy. and yet, no one loves me

1) Get out of the hood
2) Don't worry about what THEY think, worry about what YOU think. You don't need the approval of anybody except yourself.
3) If you don't like yourself then find something that you are passionate about and take pride in. Volunteer somewhere. Once you get a game these hoes will be all over your jock so much you will have to start picking between them, and it's fun to be able to know who are the flakes and you is actually interested in YOU.

	27-05-2004 13:51									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer don't be a punk and give up, ted? I'm fighting against time. it's only a matter of time before i have a shell lodged in my stomach or a bullet in my head.

Then get the **** out of the hood

If you are trying to pick up girls out of desparation then you are going to scare every single one of them away.

	27-05-2004 15:00									#20
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Girls don't like whiners.

	27-05-2004 15:01									#21
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This problem can easily be solved by writing gothic poetry and self-harming

	27-05-2004 15:15									#22
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What Ted said

Get out of the hood, and don't try to seduce girls out of desperation, you'll only be creepy, instead of being cute.

	27-05-2004 15:36									#23
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I've seen pics of you and I would think you'd be considered handsome.
Self-confidence attracts women more than anything.
You might also try dropping that wanna-be nazi crap. And get out of 'intellectual whore' mode.

	27-05-2004 15:37									#24
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And the chances of you getting killed are actually pretty slim, unless you run with a gang. Then they are fairly high.

	27-05-2004 15:57									#25
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Or if he owns a gun

	27-05-2004 16:01									#26
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If your morbid fear of being dead to-morrow is going to come true, all the more reason to live well to-day.

So don't let the morbid fear get in your way - and pursue your heart's desire.

I suggest what you focus on doing is this. Take an interest in the girls you come across. Spend as little time as you can thinking about what they think of you, or whether your face is cute or hideous, or how worthy or unworthy you are.

Instead find out what the girl you are with likes, what subjects interest her and what her thoughts are on those subjects.

Love at first sight certainly exists in the world but it is a bit of a rarity. Whereas the love which grows as two people share things together and get to know each other is happily far from rare.

Look at the couples about you. Not every one of the men in those couples are cute, certain to live for ever and sublimely worthy. In fact some are plain or even downright ugly, statistically some will die to-morrow and the level of worthiness is pretty patchy. So you are not as unusual a specimen as all that. And yet these men have not been prevented from pairing up.

Most of the girls you know share your desire to find someone to love. Mother nature rather insists on this. Being a bit obsessive that another generation is going to get itself born.

Ask girls out for dates as often as you sensibly can. Do not be upset by refusals. They will like it that you ask them out and some won't refuse. In fact, if you manage a measure of confidence about it I'd guess that you will get more acceptances than refusals. Anyway the process tends to feed off itself.

How long it takes before the love you crave comes along is anyone's guess. Indeed if you finish up loving someone or being loved by them from the slower process there is not necessarily any particular moment when it dawns on you that this is the case. But you do get to realise it is so eventually.

And your heart has picked a sensible thing to desire. Having people to love and being loved by them is a really valuable thing to have in your life. If I pause to count my blessings that is the thing which comes into my mind first. And if you lose one of the people you love and/or who loves you the loss always marks your life.

So adding one more is a good thing to try to do.

Good luck.

	27-05-2004 16:05									#27
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The fact that I have been with a girl for three and a half years should fill even the ugliest of imbeciles with optimism. I'm hideous, me.

	27-05-2004 16:23									#28
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Speer, if you're really afraid something's going to happen go join the navy and get the hell out of that place. After that get a ticket out of there and stay in some small town out in the middle of nowhere until you're scheduled for basic, hell pitch a tent in the woods if you have to. If woods even exist down there still.

	27-05-2004 16:25									#29
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You can't be uglier than me.

	27-05-2004 16:27									#30
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Albert,
i don't consider myself attractive at all, yet I have more girl trouble than I know what to do with.

Here are some tips. They all work at least 1 out of 10 times which is more than enough.
1. Go to a hiphop/RandB club that plays primarily east coast music. Down south hiphop is a different ball game.
2. Get there about 11 pm. Have 3 drinks rapidly to loosen up. Then have a drink as needed to keep loose remembering to stop soon enough if you are driving.
3. Do not ask any girl to dance prior to 1130. You have to ask at least 10 girls to dance. They have to be strangers. It's best to ask girls that are looking at you already. Introduce yourself before you ask them. Lean in so they can smell your cologne. Basically, put some cologne around your ear. Speak to them in their ear. Offer them your hand or touch them on the back in a friendly nonthreatening yet familiar manner. At leat 3 out of 10 women will be willing to dance(usually). When you are dancing try to make eye contact to gage interest. If there is eye contact, make a compliment to them and a joke. They should have smiled at least twice by then. It's your choice what to do in the interim. Too close the deal. Tell them that the club is too noisy too really talk and you want too get to know them better. Phone number time. This works. Make sure that you always approach strangers. Also remember that there are girls in the club that want you to approach them. You just have too find them.

This also works very well.
When you are about too leave approach a girl on the way and tell her you were interested in her but you never got a chance too approach. Ask her for her #. Remeber introduce yourself first. This makes it so they are not turning down some stranger. You become more human.

As far as intimacy, that's tricky. You can't get to friendly with a girl before you kiss, hold hands and etc. If you get to friendly you go from possible love interest to confidante and brother. Pay attention to the woman's body language. If there breasts seem to accidentally touch you it's probably no accident. Another thing you can do is when you are with them put yourself in there space a little. friendly touches on the back can lead to holding hands. Same for massages. Make the women associate you with comfort.

Prior to dates,
Prepare a list of 10 or so things to talk about if the conversaton gets in trouble. Some topics should be intimate/personal. The level depends on your familiarity. The conversation should be around 40/60. Your half should be 40. Ask questions and reveal things about yourself that you and the person have in common. All of this works for me and I'm shy.
I hope this helps.