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If they don't care, why do you?

Maybe they think she's spot on


as a response to this:

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what's even more stunning is that she hasn't had to retract it, not for want of action on the part of concerned asian american groups, but because nobody who isn't asian american seems to give a damn.




so are you saying that the majority of non-asian americans think that it's perfectly ok to use racially charged remarks against asian americans?

it's ok to say jap, nip, gook, chink, slant, zipperhead, slope, but it's not ok to say n*, or sp* ?

why do i care? because i'm a slant-eyed mongoloid who mabey might become part of the yellow peril some day. maybe because i'm one of the people who could be painted with that same brush for no better reason than i have the similar facial features as mineta, or wen ho lee, who the knee-jerk rightist "patriots" have branded un-american without making any distinction between a person's politics and a person's ethnicity.

yes, ann coulter has a half-decent point, one that if the majority of a certain type of criminal is of a certain type of ethnicity, it makes sense to put in just a bit of extra scrutiny on those of that ethnicity.

did she need to couch it in racially inflammatory tones? **** no.

did she know it was racially charged, linking an american of asian decent to an atrocity committed by asians with no american linkage? most definitely. did she care? doesn't look like it.

and by and large, it seems as if those who are white, black, and latino don't give a **** either. but had it been powell or rice, jesse jackson, al sharpton, and hell, most everyone else in the government would have been all over her ass to get her to if not retract those beliefs, at least apologize for being so...

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The British generally mean South Asians when they mention Asians. Just saying...


Well, I was talking from an American point of view, obviously...

Who cares what the British say, anyway? ****ing retards say 'zed' instead of 'zee' for christ's sake.

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What the **** do you have against zed, you *******?

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****ing double post

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What the **** do you have against zed, you *******?


You'd hate it too if you had to reteach the ****ing alphabet to high schoolers because some dip-**** Kiwi decided to teach them bullshit letter names like 'zed'...

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****ing colonial.

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You're all our colonies now, so I think we should set the letter names...

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so are you saying that the majority of non-asian americans think that it's perfectly ok to use racially charged remarks against asian americans?


'racially charged?'

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it's ok to say jap, nip, gook, chink, slant, zipperhead, slope, but it's not ok to say n*, or sp* ?


No, and I don't believe Coulter is saying this. I do agree that the tragedy of the relocation of Japanese Canadians and Americans has been blown out of proportion. It's still a tragedy, but in light of the Nanking Massacre, can hardly be compared.

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why do i care? because i'm a slant-eyed mongoloid who mabey might become part of the yellow peril some day. maybe because i'm one of the people who could be painted with that same brush for no better reason than i have the similar facial features as mineta, or wen ho lee, who the knee-jerk rightist "patriots" have branded un-american without making any distinction between a person's politics and a person's ethnicity.


I don't think it should matter one bit, your ethnicity. I'm supporting one of you mongoloids in the Conservative party in my riding, whom I think is a fine candidate.

I live in Hongcouver, for pete's sake. We're a minority in some of the suburbs.

I've even dated a Korean for a short while. If you don't believe it, you can prolly find quotes in the OT Archive when I first started posting in OT.

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did she need to couch it in racially inflammatory tones? **** no.


By your reaction, I think she's spot on. If this man in particular, was not Asian, would he have a job? The vehemence of your reaction seems to say that she's hit a sore spot.

If he is competent at his job, that is one thing, but it does no one any good to have someone who is incompetent, regardless of their race.

I'm still looking for the section that is 'racially charged.' It's not racist to accuse someone of being incompetent. Coulter is not saying that all Japanese are incompetent, just questioning why this man, in particular, has his job.

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What does that have to with zee/zed?

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You spammers are off-topic in a Coulter thread.

Begone.

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No, and I don't believe Coulter is saying this. I do agree that the tragedy of the relocation of Japanese Canadians and Americans has been blown out of proportion. It's still a tragedy, but in light of the Nanking Massacre, can hardly be compared.



What would be the point in comparing these two at all?

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What would be the point in comparing these two at all?


I have my reasons.

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and they are . . . . . .?

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He needs something 'worse' to play off of so it doesn't look so bad?

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I suppose I could try to downplay the injustice of early twentieth century lynching of blacks in United States by saying, "Oh but the Holocaust in Nazi Germany was so much worse!"

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she's a fascist and a nutbag... I guess I understand why BK likes her.




I suppose this is a case where opposites attract.

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How well did the Japanese treat the Koreans and other Chinese?

To say that there is unity among 'asians' ignores the fact that they have treated each other far worse than the Americans and Canadians have treated the Asians. It doesn't excuse the US and Canada but to accuse the one of racism and not the other, ignores history.

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duh, BK -- many Japanese were racist during World War II just like many Americans were racist during World War II



So why bring up that non-issue?

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Coulter is a shrill harpy who constantly obliterates any fleeting decent idea she has in a tide of demogogery and bile unequaled by any other columnist save Michael Savage.

She is an embarrasment to Right-wing thought.

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So why bring up that non-issue?


It's not a non-issue for QCubed, to whom I directed the response.

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Yeah -- I've known that for quite some time too, GePap.

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She is an embarrasment to Right-wing thought.


That raises an interesting question, Gepap.

Who is your favourite right-wing thinker?

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That raises an interesting question, Gepap.

Who is your favourite right-wing thinker?


William Kristol, W.F. Buckley, Krauthammer, George Will all are conservatives and exponentially better than Coulter.

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Will, I have heard of.

The rest I have not.

William Kristol is editor of the influential Washington-based political magazine, The Weekly Standard. Widely recognized as one of the nation's leading political analysts and commentators, Mr. Kristol regularly appears on Fox News Sunday and on the Fox News Channel.

Before starting The Weekly Standard in 1995, Mr. Kristol led the Project for the Republican Future, where he helped shape the strategy that produced the 1994 Republican congressional victory. Prior to that, Mr. Kristol served as chief of staff to Vice President Dan Quayle during the Bush administration and to Secretary of Education William Bennett under President Reagan. Before coming to Washington in 1985, Mr. Kristol taught politics at the University of Pennsylvania and Harvard's Kennedy School of Government.

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Now that I think about it, I have heard about Buckley. I'm surprised you like him, especially when he quotes G.K. Chesterson, or makes statements like this.

"American conservatives never exclude those who discountenance transcendent perspectives, but we tend to live by them."

I see why you like Krauthammer, though.

Same ol' Anti-semitism of the Passion of the Christ. He forgets that the Jews were not the one scourging, but the Romans. Why is it okay for Gibson to depict the Romans scourging for 10 minutes?

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Krauthammer is a scumbag, I remember when he was declaring that "crack"babies would form an underclass of criminals, a subculture of deviants who would prey on the rest of us. And he's a Jew who must certainly be aware of how that terminology was used against Jews. God only knows how many crackbabies went unadopted because people like him were scaring people away with predictions of doom and gloom. And where has he been as his predictions have proven to be bogus? Nowhere! No retractions, no apologies to all those slandered, nada.

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Of that lost Krauthammer is the least liked-he is not in the same class as Krystal or Will, or Buckley, but he is still better than Coulter.

What is rich is Kenobi, who likes this insane ***** insinuating I am anti-semitic (that self hating Jew Krauthammer)...Ben, newsflash-when it comes to creative bigotry, you have a special place here in Poly.

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my favorite right wing thinker would be bush, but since he cant think, I guess he's disqualified.

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Gepap:

Sorry, if I was not clear.

This is the article I was reading of Krauthammer.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...0-2004Mar4.html


It's a trope that the Passion is anti-semitic.

I'm not saying anything about YOU being anti-semitic, nor Krauthammer.

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What does that have to with zee/zed?


Only mongoloids say 'zed'. There's your connection.

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