31-05-2004 23:59									#1
	UFO: Aftershock Tired of ads?

as my old UFO: Aftermath -thread ( http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=98013 ) is archived now, i'll have to start a new one:

a new UFO:AM game is coming out: UFO Aftershock!

it's basicly the same engine and idea with more features, like entering buildings, different tech tree, etc.

here's the official new homepage:
http://www.ufo-aftershock.com/pages/index.html

	01-06-2004 00:01									#2
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this is the tagline:

"The year is 2054. Fifty years ago, something terrible happened and the surface of Earth became uninhabitable. The remnants of humankind escaped to immense flying island «the Laputa», however a revolt against increasingly rigid and corrupt human leadership of the island escalated into a conflict that eventually destroyed it. The survivors of the survivors flee once again. Can they reclaim the Earth from whatever force now holding her in its powers?

	01-06-2004 00:06									#3
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and if anyone is interested in more detail, here's an interview, which looks more like an FAQ:
http://www.ufoaftermath.co.uk/?c=in...ftershockE32004

	01-06-2004 00:09									#4
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Sounds good. I'll have to take a look at this one.

	01-06-2004 00:11									#5
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old engine as in X:com: UFO defense engine?

That's the only one I'm interested in

	01-06-2004 00:15									#6
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no, old engine as UFO:aftermath engine

it's completely different compared to the old XCOM/UFO-games. sort of stop-start-realtime. in pause mode, you tell your guys what to do next and continue the game. it's a concept you have to get used to, but a lot better than plain real time strategy... it's not a click-festival like AoE and successors

	01-06-2004 00:18									#7
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check out these screenshots from the UFO:AM game:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...100#post2514100

	01-06-2004 00:29									#8
	Got spare money?

I wish they'd make a game like this using the silent storm engine.

	01-06-2004 07:56									#9
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The combat in the game is superb. I just wish they included base management more in-depth than choosing military, engineering or research.

	01-06-2004 08:28									#10
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Like what?

	01-06-2004 08:34									#11
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Like, say, the previous games of the "series" perhaps.
Base management where you actually built bases up and bought equipment and weaponry for the bases and such. Whats the point of defending the entire world if you can't get rich while doing so?

	01-06-2004 12:14									#12
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SB: well, the vast marjority of humanity got killed in the biological attack, so money suddently isn't that important

	01-06-2004 12:31									#13
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I like resource allocation. Sue me.

	01-06-2004 12:40									#14
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but i agree... that was one of the nice things in the first XCOM games... financing your bases.

btw, whoever likes UFO:AM, this is the official website and very good: http://www.ufoaftermath.co.uk/

there's a small but powerful modding community... kind of like if gramphos, kal el, sween32 and so would be the only ones posting here

	01-06-2004 14:05									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns Base management where you actually built bases up and bought equipment and weaponry for the bases and such. Whats the point of defending the entire world if you can't get rich while doing so?

Oh that. Sure.

	01-06-2004 15:50									#16
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I never got around to playing Aftermath. Must correct that at some point.

	01-06-2004 20:04									#17
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I would say Aftermath was decidedly mediocre. There just ultimately wasn't much depth to it, either on the base management side or in the actual combat. Maybe they'll make some changes for the better with this one...

	01-06-2004 20:14									#18
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well, by adding entering buildings, climbing on roofs, etc, some combat issues have been addressed.

UFO:AS has lots of things that were actually planned to be in UFO:AM, but didn't manage it due to time problems. a bit like PTW was not more than an expansion with things that should have been in civ3 vanilla from the beginning on

	01-06-2004 23:24									#19
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Aftermath did my head in. I finally got to the Retribution mission, but no matter what configuration of weapons or men I used, they all got wasted within 5 seconds of starting the mission.

I eventually uninstalled the game in disgust.

	02-06-2004 01:22									#20
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cheatcodes

i managed to solve this one by extracting the game data... and looking for the weaknesses of those damn tentacle-creatures... it turned out that they are only really vulnerable against warp weapons. then, with hundreds reloading attempts, i managed it... but damn, that was hard *oooph*

	02-06-2004 08:47									#21
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That's why the original game is better

	02-06-2004 08:58									#22
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I managed to kill the first one with many sniper rifles trained on it, one supershotgun and a minigun. It still took forever and I was running out of ammo. So I grabbed the nearest dead alien's weapon and equiped it. It just so happened to be a warp weapon.

	02-06-2004 16:37									#23
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Anyone notice that Laser Squad Nemesis finally has single player.

Probably old news, but I don't get out much - I actually read about it in a magazine. I know - very low tech.

www.lasersquadnemesis.com

	02-06-2004 17:31									#24
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:brrrr: looks freaky
http://www.lasersquadnemesis.com/FrontPage_screen2.htm

is this real time strategy or more XCOM like?

	02-06-2004 17:54									#25
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I'm cursed with this game. I messed up twice then I was having a far more successful game of UFO:AM recently when my HDD died. I haven't found the enthusiasm to start it again yet.

Enterable buildings and rooftop climbing sounds interesting but in its own way may kill the game. At least with the original the relatively big town zones could be walked around at a good pace to clear the map. If you have to commando rush each house that could become total tedium.

	02-06-2004 18:59									#26
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While the roof and building entry may be interesting, I still don't know if it will fill out the tactical depth.

	02-06-2004 19:06									#27
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True. The combat itself was ok (from what little I saw), but there needs to be another aspect to the game I think.

	02-06-2004 19:19									#28
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the biggest problem, imho, is the completely new hybrid form of RTS and TBS. they did it quite well, but it just needs more games alike to get used to this type.

i also disliked the very close distance to the enemies. i mean... come on... when landing the chopper, you should be able to see those carcrabs and other big mutants... and the aliens should be able to see you! so why not always start in a more secure distance? to make it harder again, the aliens should coordinate better. the mutants may be oversized insects, but the reticulans are brilliant aliens. at least they should be trained for combat.

	02-06-2004 19:27									#29
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here's the trailer, if anyone wants first impressions:
http://www.gamershell.com/download_5731.shtml

	02-06-2004 19:35									#30
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looking at the FAQ it seems a lot hasn't been decided yet. there a feature requests by the community.

some definate now features will be cyberimplants, scouting robots, etc.

ETA is somewhere around E3 next year... so about 3/4 of a year. a lot can be done by then