01-08-2004 03:39									#61
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quote: Originally posted by snoopy369 Hmm... looks like after 30 turns we'll have about 16 destroyers? That looks like a nice sized fleet. ^^ Are we going to build any cruisers, or straight to battleships when that's possible?

Not all of those destroyers will end up destroyers. I want a few battleships in there too. Cruisers can't be built in PTW.

	01-08-2004 03:47									#62
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- 2 workers added to Renewal. Check happiness and change one WF to entertainer if necessary.
- 2 workers added to Memory. Check happiness and change one WF to entertainer if necessary.
- 2 workers added to Lux Invicta.
- 2 workers added to Phoenix
- 3 workers added to Irony
- 5 workers added to Eternity
- 5 workers added to Panama Vox
- There should be one worker left over as he is completing the final touch on the very last railroad in the land.
- Send WM-accepted to Lego
- Check slider and possibly ramp down to save more money if possible on research. Don't go below 1 turn research to finish research though.
- If Lego sends workers, add them to Phoenix and Lux Invicta and check the happiness of each.
- If Lego sends the upgrade gold, upgrade one of the pikemen to an infantry
- Check through all the cities compared to my maps in the first post. Move around various WF to maximize the cities as much as possible. At the very least, the WF on a hill in NV should move to a mountain so that Lux Invicta can have the hill back. And move one of the hills in Eternity so that Phoenix can have it.

	06-08-2004 10:07									#63
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Rhothaerill, I haven't been here much in the past couple of months but I continue to be ASTOUNDED at the progress you have made. EXCELLENT job my friend.

Nice touch building up the pop with workers!

	06-08-2004 10:21									#64
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As per previous orders. Lego and ND sent the same items.

	06-08-2004 10:26									#65
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Thanks con. It's pretty much the only way our civ will grow quickly enough to make any difference and still maintain a decent shield count.

	06-08-2004 21:20									#66
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quote: Originally posted by conmcb25 Rhothaerill, I haven't been here much in the past couple of months but I continue to be ASTOUNDED at the progress you have made. EXCELLENT job my friend. Nice touch building up the pop with workers!

Yup - it has been a marvel to watch. And has made what could be a potentially very dreary period in Voxian history quite interesting - for us builder types anyway.

Rhoth - I ditto con's comments.

	10-08-2004 09:05									#67
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Turn played per orders. The worker joining went well and we're now up to 402 beakers at 100% science with a deficit of 78 gold. Plus we'll pick up 212 gold next turn thanks to the beakers we had already accrued to espionage and only needing one turn to get it.

For the time being Memory will be fluctuating between losing some food and then will be set to gain it back. I don't want to set the lux slider for just a few of the cities, nor do I want to ask for one of our precious luxuries from ND or GS at the moment. Better to string them all out as long as we can for now.

Lego sent us a worker and the upgrade gold. I informed them of our new tech situation.

Here is our empire currently. Our first destroyer comes next turn.

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	10-08-2004 09:22									#68
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- Phoenix produces destroyer. Start destroyer (will eventually be a battleship).
- Hope grows to size 5. WF to fish, hill, mined grass, irrigated grass and coast.
- VW#22 moves to Lux Invicta and joins. Place one citizen on taxman for now.
- Move slider to 100% science.
- If Lego sends the upgrade gold, upgrade one of the pikemen to an infantry
- If Lego sends a worker, add it to Eternity and place one citizen on taxman.
- Move V.C.S. Immortal to V.C.S. Intrepid location, move V.C.S. Intrepid to Hope.
- New destroyer to be named V.C.S. The Voice and moves to one tile to the west of Panama Vox (so that no one can see it in port).

Once we get our cities to size 12 then we can use the slider to 10% luxuries or use up a luxury item (haven't decided which yet).

	13-08-2004 07:12									#69
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Per orders. Lego gave us the gold and two workers which were added to Eternity and Panama Vox.

I'll be requesting our luxury from GS this turn.

	15-08-2004 21:21									#70
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- Rename destroyer to V.C.S. The Voice and move it to join V.C.S. Fearless. Move V.C.S. Fearless back to Eternity to upgrade.
- Move V.C.S. Intrepid back to Hope to upgrade.
- If GS sends the luxury item, check all size 11 cities and put the citizens back to working tiles. If GS doesn't send the luxury item, bug them.
- If Lego sends one worker, add to Renewal. Any more add to Lux Invicta and Phoenix in that order.
- Send 1gpt-unaccepted to Lego for dyes to get that rolling.


By the way, since only the first one has been produced yet, I was planning on naming our first few destroyers after the cities in the old homeland (Beta-by-the-sea, Wittlich City, etc.) Any objections?

Second, I want to disband three of the four Immortals. They are unnecessary as their best upgrade is worse than any unit we will face. I'll keep one as the palace guard of The One though. Any objections?

	15-08-2004 22:00									#71
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The naming sounds good.

And OK on the Immortals. Just save the Elite. btw - what do they upgrade to. Guerrillas? Oram I confusing ptw and C3c. Or maybe I am confusing Vox and Monkey.

	15-08-2004 22:11									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Beta The naming sounds good. And OK on the Immortals. Just save the Elite. btw - what do they upgrade to. Guerrillas? Oram I confusing ptw and C3c. Or maybe I am confusing Vox and Monkey.

Guerillas are the upgrade. In PTW they are only 6/6 which is not going to do much against infantry and tanks. Meanwhile they're just sucking gold from us.

	16-08-2004 04:26									#73
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Per orders. Gathering Storm sent the luxury item. Lego sent gold and 4 workers that were added to Renewal, Lux Invicta, Phoenix and Eternity.

The 3 Immortals were disbanded, with the elite being renamed Lord Beta's Palace Guard.

	16-08-2004 05:30									#75
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quote: Originally posted by Rhothaerill with the elite being renamed Lord Beta's Palace Guard.

Thank you. I'm honoured.

	16-08-2004 06:08									#76
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As you should be Beta!

	18-08-2004 06:53									#77
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- Hope grows to size 6 and produces settler. Drops to size 4. Start marketplace. WF to fish, mined hill, mined grassland and irrigated grassland.
- Move settler to plains 1-1 of Lux Invicta and fortify.
- Fortify V.C.S. The Voice
- V.C.S. Fearless moves to Eternity and upgrades.
- V.C.S. Intrepid moves to Hope and upgrades.
- Join 1 of Lego's workers to Panama Vox.
- Hold the other three Lego workers in reserve for joining to Hope in two turns.
- If Lego has sent 400 gold, upgrade 4 pikemen.
- Send 1gpt-unaccepted to Lego for dyes to get that rolling.

	18-08-2004 07:12									#78
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Our march back to world domination continues.....

	19-08-2004 06:19									#79
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Sort of per orders. The turn started out with us losing dyes since the game didn't give Lego the opportunity to send them last turn. Only Eternity ended up in revolt though since I went through the cities. The others will lose a little food, but can handle it for the one turn until Lego can get dyes back to us. Hopefully doing the dyes for gpt trick will work and we won't have to worry about that anymore. When the time comes to renew the luxuries from other teams I may just ask for them a turn in advance so we don't have to go through the process of losing our production for a little bit.

On the upgrade front, I don't know what the heck I was thinking regarding upgrades when I told Vondrack how many we still had to do. I was thinking they were all pikes, when only a few pikes were left to upgrade. The rest were caravels, which for some reason I was thinking only cost 20 gold to upgrade, not 120. So the upshot is that, thanks to the extra 520 gold that Lego sent, all of our military is now upgraded with the exception of Lord Beta's Palace Guard and the four caravels. None of those need to be upgraded for that price until/unless we stage an intercontinental war.

We also now have Mass Production, and three of our destroyer builds have been switched to battleships.

	19-08-2004 06:28									#80
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- If Lego sends dyes, rearrange the tiles of all the size 12 cities back to normal (using the map on the first post of this thread)
- Lux Invicta finishes destroyer. Start artillery.
- Move V.C.S. Fearless north for eventual deployment as a picket.
- Move V.C.S. Intrepid north and then east for eventual deployment as a picket.
- New destroyer named V.C.S. Millertown and moves 6 and fortifies (to block the entrance to the lagoon).
- Play with all the artillery and infantry to prevent enemy landing zones along the east and west of the island (at least until someon gets marines).
- Send WM-accepted to Lego.

	20-08-2004 07:17									#81
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nice job roth

Once we have battleships perhaps we can just station a few dozen outside of our enemies' capitals and destroy their buildings and units? (well, to 1hp anyways )

	21-08-2004 00:42									#82
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quote: Originally posted by snoopy369 nice job roth Once we have battleships perhaps we can just station a few dozen outside of our enemies' capitals and destroy their buildings and units? (well, to 1hp anyways )

A few dozen? If what Vondrack is saying is true, the game will be over before we even finish a dozen.

	21-08-2004 01:14									#83
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Um what exactly is Vondrack saying???????

	21-08-2004 02:48									#84
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quote: Originally posted by conmcb25 Um what exactly is Vondrack saying???????

That the game will be decided within the next 50 turns.

	21-08-2004 02:50									#85
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quote: Originally posted by Rhothaerill That the game will be decided within the next 50 turns.

Thats it? No details? Which team is he on Lego????

	21-08-2004 02:53									#86
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quote: Originally posted by conmcb25 Thats it? No details? Which team is he on Lego????

Heh, read through the last few pages of the Lego thread.

Vondrack is Lego's team leader.

	21-08-2004 03:25									#87
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Roger that, thanks

	21-08-2004 14:51									#88
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hrm within 50 turns? that's be impressive ... and probably not in our favor ><

Or is time against us? I seem to think it's in our favor to go on longer -- but maybe i'm wrong ...

	21-08-2004 15:33									#89
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Time has never been in our favor since the Great Voxodus

But Lego has been a good friend, and we have come a LOOOOOOOOOOOng way

	21-08-2004 21:47									#90
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quote: Originally posted by conmcb25 Time has never been in our favor since the Great Voxodus But Lego has been a good friend, and we have come a LOOOOOOOOOOOng way

Heh, there is still no way we can win. All we're hoping to do is get into a position to be able to help Lego win the game since they were the ones that saved us and continue to support us with gold, techs, and workers. If we can get some digs into the other teams then all the better.

Right now though, we're at least succeeding on our first goal since we've now researched and/or given Lego 6 techs with several more to go.