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Omnipresent conscience
Oct 2002
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Originally posted by Jamski
I'll be postal-voting for Labour, as always. Best way to keep the Torys out - always vote Labour. Sure, they're not perfect, but keep the Torys out at all costs, out of the town hall, out of Westminister and out of Brussels. And that's the way a lot of people think, thank god  |
Voting Lib Dem could get them to become the third party  Less likely now, sine Howard's doing a better job, but in terms of local and national government, and possibly even Euro elections, they're not far off their vote, in terms of numbers. A small swing and a lot of seats change.
I'd love to see a day where the Tories become the 3rd party of British politics 
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*End Is Forever*
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Salford, UK
Jan 1970
time: 05:36
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Drogue,
I'll come to the LibDems in a second...
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I wouldn't just catagoise them as that. They're Anti-war, anti-Europe, Anti-business, pro-immigration. Populist somewhat, but in the opposite way of the BNP and UKIP. They're trying to pick up people disaffected by the war, mainly. |
Let's have a look at the groups making up RESPECT. They're mainly drawn from three areas - George Galloway and cult following, the Socialist Workers' Party (who disowned the Socialist Alliance to join RESPECT, leaving the fringe socialist groups like the AWL high and dry) and the Muslim Association of Britain.
George Galloway is a bit of an oddball. He's a social authoritarian (vehemently against abortion, for example, though no-one ever picks him up on that), not as much of a socialist as he claims (he voted for foundation hospitals!), and anti-war rather than pro-peace. In short, he's in it for himself.
The Socialist Workers Party are undoubtedly extreme-left (slogan "one solution, revolution") but they're also an ideologically-weak attempt at a mass-member communist party. In short, this involves populist cries which are anti-American, anti-Israel and anti-capitalist. They're little more than a minor irritant in student politics.
Now I've no doubt that there are moderates within the Muslim Association of Britain, but that doesn't distract from the fact that they're largely strictly small-c conservative Islamists who most left-wing groups would decry for their positions on abortion and women's rights amongst a host of others. There are also strong allegations of links of some of their senior members to the far more sinister Muslim Brotherhood, an Egyptian-originated fundamentalist sect.
It's a truly bizarre coalition, one based on electoral gain and anti-Jewish feeling and little else. When George Galloway spoke in York those who tried to ask difficult questions were howled down and chased out, their were disgusting elements of anti-semetic abuse, and I had a blazing row afterwards with people who openly said they were members of Al-Muhajiroun.
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Monk
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I don't think we're in Brønshøj anymore
Jan 1970
time: 06:36
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Originally posted by MrFun
Dear Sava,
Since you are not a UK citizen, why did you feel that you had to qualify your admission of not knowing what the parties stand for with the word "but?"
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Dear Nazi,
Not a Grammar Nazi myself, I should probably be wary of correcting one who supposedly is, but it does seems to me that since the question mark is yours rather than part of Sava's statement, it doesn't really belong between the quotes.
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