02-06-2004 23:52									#1
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European elections: how are you voting?

	02-06-2004 23:59									#2
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Hmm I am not British but I can vote in the European and local elections. I usually and will do again, vote Lib Dem.

	03-06-2004 00:02									#3
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quote: Originally posted by lightblue Hmm I am not British but I can vote in the European and local elections. I usually and will do again, vote Lib Dem.

Why do you vote LibDem?

	03-06-2004 00:02									#4
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Someone has stolen my avatar

And it's and improvment on mine :mad with jealousy smilie:

Anyway, it's obviouls who I am voting for

	03-06-2004 00:02									#5
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Green Party. It's rounder than all the other squares.

	03-06-2004 00:07									#6
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quote: Originally posted by The Andy-Man Someone has stolen my avatar And it's and improvment on mine :mad with jealousy smilie: Anyway, it's obviouls who I am voting for

I took mine from CCO Online.

	03-06-2004 00:10									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Starchild Green Party. It's rounder than all the other squares.

I've been telling undecided left-wingers to vote Green. I don't agree with them, but they're largely principled people who mean well. At the YUSU European election hustings, their lead candidate in Yorkshire & Humber Mark Hill came across extremely well, witty, down-to-earth and well-intentioned.

They're certainly infinitely preferable to the RESPECT extremists, the Blairite clones, or the Liberal Democrat hypocrites.

	03-06-2004 00:10									#8
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I'm voting Green because my Starchild dahlin' voted green.

	03-06-2004 00:13									#9
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"I've been telling undecided left-wingers to vote Green"

Sorry I had to at this. Better them than the Lib Dems huh...

I won't be voting, as I'm going home on Saturday, and it's too much effort for a meaningless vote.

	03-06-2004 00:15									#10
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You have a vote at home, and you'd better bloody vote in the local elections.

	03-06-2004 00:20									#11
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You must be joking. I hope, for your sake, that not many people find out..

	03-06-2004 00:23									#12
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Ah Asher, you'll be starting rumours about us if you keep up like that.

	03-06-2004 00:25									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Park Avenue You must be joking. I hope, for your sake, that not many people find out..

Ah well, never mind. Those 2000 leaflets didn't really help, then...

	03-06-2004 00:27									#14
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Well you know Will Quince lost his uni election here a month back only because someone ciruclated a few thousand leaflets telling people he was a Tory..

	03-06-2004 00:29									#15
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He lost by one vote after some Plaid Cymru scaremongering, and hardly tried to hide the fact that he was a Tory anyway. He'd already been elected to a Welfare Sabbatical as an open Tory, something which I believe is pretty much unique in Student Union politics...

I'm standing as a Conservative, anyway. I can hardly hide that fact when it's on the bloody ballot paper.

	03-06-2004 00:32									#16
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Well this thread turned into a lover's quarrel of a different sort .

	03-06-2004 00:35									#17
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Well I never voted, Imran, in our uni elections as they were a plan joke. I mean, the NUS supported a strike by our own lecturers - how ****ing stupid is that!

But back to Iain now, the election was pretty dodgy..

	03-06-2004 00:36									#18
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Lib Dem Voted yesterday (postal vote)

	03-06-2004 00:38									#19
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NUS does not equal UWASU, not by any stretch.

Are you going to vote for me, or not?

	03-06-2004 00:41									#20
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quote: Originally posted by lightblue Hmm I am not British but I can vote in the European and local elections. I usually and will do again, vote Lib Dem.

You aren't British? What then?

	03-06-2004 00:53									#21
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There's a lot of people in this country who aren't British.

	03-06-2004 00:58									#22
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quote: the NUS supported a strike by our own lecturers, How ****ing stupid is that!

Well speaking as a member of the lecturers we were grateful of the NUS support. The idea that supporting the lecturers union is stupid is particularly half witted. it might seem that loosing two days of tuition would be particularly tragic to you but the employers attempts to reduce the wages of lecturers can only reduce the number of quality lecturers in the future. (I know that with my wages and that of my girlfriend who is a teacher it is proving impossible to afford housing, further reduction of our earning potential will cause us to need to work outside the education sector.)

Back to the original topic. In my constituency the only two candidates that stand a chance are Plaid and the Lib dems. seeing as I would rather set my house on fire than vote for nationalists I will be voting Lib dem.

	03-06-2004 01:01									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov You aren't British? What then?

Dutch by parentage. Grew up in Luxembourg and have lived in the UK for going on 8 years.

Why Lib Dems? I am rabidly pro Europe, in favour of proportional representation, against the tuition fee and pretty environmentally conscious. I was in favour of the war on Iraq but not happy with how it's been handled. I am in no way a hardcore socialist so Mr Galloway won't be getting my vote, I don't agree with the Greens on too many things mainly wrt science and Labour has missed its chance it got when it got into power about 9 months after i first got here. Leaves the Lib Dems.

	03-06-2004 01:24									#24
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Crib sheet on the parties for us non-Brits?

	03-06-2004 01:50									#25
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Ceebs,

quote: Well speaking as a member of the lecturers we were grateful of the NUS support.

I'm sure you were. However, Mandy Telford and the NUS Executive had no policy and no mandate to support you.

quote: The idea that supporting the lecturers union is stupid is particularly half witted. it might seem that loosing two days of tuition would be particularly tragic to you but the employers attempts to reduce the wages of lecturers can only reduce the number of quality lecturers in the future.

I have every sympathy with the low wages of lecturers. However, the idea that the action of your Union was in the interests of current students (who, at the end of the day, are the ones who NUS and Student Unions are first and foremost there to support) is absolutely farcical. Let me give you some examples.

Firstly, couple of friends of mine are Language students, in their second years. They're supposed to be going away next year to study abroad. Because of the AUT strike and work-to-rule, for over a month they had no idea where they were going to end up next year. When their (delayed) applications were finally processed and checked, they were left to pick up the scraps. My friend Helen is going to Paris - because of people like you she's had to apply for accomodation late, and as a consequence has no guarantee of being accepted into halls. She might have to end up looking for temporary (and hugely expensive) accomodation in a foreign city. The action of the AUT may have left her a couple of thousand pounds worse off for next year.

Secondly, I have lost count of the number of people who have complained that they were forced to take already-stressful finals and assessed essays under the additional strain of not knowing whether their exams would be cancelled at the last minute, their deadlines changed, or whether their work would be marked and count at all.

That our supposed representative bodies can support actions which result in these sorts of situations without a mandate is utterly dispicable. That the AUT uses students as pawns and blackmail bargaining chips in their own dispute is no better. Shame on you.

	03-06-2004 01:52									#26
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quote: Originally posted by OzzyKP Crib sheet on the parties for us non-Brits?

"At a glance: European election manifestos"

	03-06-2004 02:35									#27
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None of the leftwing parties tickle my fancy, unfortunately, so it'll have to be the Lib Dems.

	03-06-2004 02:44									#28
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This one looks cool:

quote: ENGLISH DEMOCRATS PARTY The EDP says it wants European cooperation and trade but not a "political entity" which undermines national independence, sovereignty and democratic institutions. It was founded to campaign for an English Parliament in the wake of devolution to Scotland and Wales. Among its other demands are recognition for traditional counties, including the reunification of Yorkshire, and greater autonomy for Cornwall. The party is fielding candidates in the South East, North West, East of England, Yorkshire and the Humber and London.

reunify Yorkshire, that should get some folks really excited.

	03-06-2004 02:48									#29
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Lib Dems are left wing

You go EiF!

	03-06-2004 02:49									#30
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I think Americans should have the right to vote in British elections.