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OliverFA
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Leeds, UK
Sep 2002
time: 06:36
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I have divided feelings about this question. On one hand I really like Star Trek. The optimism, the idea about a brilliant future, really skilled characters, plots that made you think... On the other side, the chapters that usually are considered as the "best" Star Trek are plainly boring for me, and the Prime Directive just sucks.
I think that Babylon 5 is much better than Star Trek giving a moral lesson. I prefer the Babylon 5 message "We wish we didn´t have to go to war, but we have no other choice" than the Star Trek one "It´s better to lose the war than to betray your principles".
Star Wars is quite entertaining but cannot be compared with ST or B5.
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OliverFA
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Leeds, UK
Sep 2002
time: 06:36
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Originally posted by Saint Marcus
Voyager and Enterprise are tied too...but only because both suck so badly. Enterprise is still going though, so it may get better (DS9, TNG and B5 all sucked in the begining too)...but then again, they already had 3 seasons, they should have gotten things right by now. Season 3 was alright to watch, but completely irrelevant. The whole Xindi thing was pointless, it showed us little, and played out like 1 big episode. It would have been alright if they managed to make it into a Dominion War like saga, spanning several seasons...but instead, the Xindi weapon plot came...and went. Now, season 4 will be starting, and we're right where we left of at the end of season 2. The Xindi have made peace and left, and a new saga starts. |
I have to disagree here. Despite Enterprise Season 2 has been quite boring, Season 3 is the best Trek ever. If Season 4 continues this way it will no doubt become better than DS9, and it could even go beyong B5
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The Mad Monk
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of Ice Cream
Mar 2000
time: 23:36
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Appropo of nothing, but what the hey:
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Saturday, May 01, 2004
Does Star Trek Hate Women Now?
I'm beginning to run out of other explanations.
Sometime around the middle of Voyager, there seems to have been a... shift... in the way the series portrays fe-males.
Trek has a proud history there, for the most part. Granted, the miniskirt uniforms and childlike characterization in the original series look kind of embarrassing today, but that series actually WAS progressive for 1960s TV. And beginning with NextGen, Trek presented us with a procession of women who could actually be interesting as people: Yar, Crusher, Troi, Guinan, Ro, Kira, Dax*2, Kes, Torres, Janeway. All these shows had their bad years (Voyager had more bad than good), but at their best even Troi and Kes had something to offer the story besides a nice rack. (As in tune with emotions as she was, Troi was often smarter than the men around her, and Kes managed to mix intelligence with innocence, a rare combo indeed.)
Then... trouble.
First came Seven of Nine and the Borg Queen, both of whom proceeded from the ridiculous assumption that a race of advanced cyborgs, who want to control the entire universe, want even MORE to start by assimilating your penis. Why do Borg even NEED mammaries, anyway? I didn't see a lot of breastfeeding going on in those incubation chambers. The worst part was watching Patrick Stewart trying like hell to sell the idea that the Queen was part of his Borg experience, but he FORGOT about her until meeting her for the second time, because, you know, getting his mind peeled like an onion wasn't nearly as TRAUMATIC as having this blotchy cleavagey corpse-girl fondle his shoulder. METAPHORICALLY fondle his shoulder.
"Hey," said some perverse genius, "Trek always has the character that's wondering what it's like to experience human emotions and stuff, right? Spock, Data, Odo, the Doctor? Let's do that again, but this time make the character a woman! We can have her get all weepy and PMSy, and best of all, we can make her have lotsa SEX! To start, let's make her a frigid ***** like those girls from high school with the tight sweaters who always ignored me!"
Or you can buy the official version from Jeri Ryan's boyfriend or husband or ****buddy or whatever. (Even the experts are not really sure.)
The same template is at work with T'Pol, but the ABUSE! God, the abuse! Just! Keeps! Pouring! Down! It's like a four-year-long episode of Fear Factor! She's been raped, tortured, driven out of her mind at LEAST three times, infected with AIDS, practically shat upon by her own people, and turned into a crack whore. She's been paired off with Archer and Trip on an apparently rotating schedule. And best of all, looks like her loss of emotional control is permanent. Supers.
Conceded, EVERY character has to suffer some in order to be interesting, but they also have to get some cool moments of karmic payback, or else they just look like perpetual victims. My memory for Trek isn't as photographic as it used to be, but I challenge ANYONE to come up with five cool moments for T'Pol. And bits where Captain Archer rewards her with a tight smile and a temporary suspension of grumping don't count.
I've heard rumors that there's another female character on the show named "Hoshi," but I can produce no concrete evidence... oh, wait, that kinda good "Beauty and the Beast" episode? Oh, her. The one without cleavage. Right. Does anybody know what... uh... "Hoshi's" personality is supposed to be, now? Anybody?
Hey, I'll ogle a nice pair as much as the next guy, but if that's all I'm after, well, leafing through FHM is a much more efficient way to get it. And I respect the women in there more.
Last week was the last straw for me. I'm off Trek now. I've been impressed with some of their ideas for this season, but I can no longer ignore this grimy feeling I get while watching.
(It doesn't help that I still remember the viewer poll declaring T'Pol's rape the best episode of the first season. There are powerful and tasteful stories to be told about rape, but that wasn't one of 'em...)
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JohnT
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Capitalist
Mar 1999
time: 00:36
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quote:
Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Yeah, I've met Seth Green IRL, and he's about the same size as she is. TV is populated by midgets. |
I've met Seth, James Marsters (Spike), Iyari Limon (Kennedy - she played with Sophie for 15 minutes), Nicholas Brandon (Xander), the guy who plays Clem, and a few others. Yes, Laura and Sophie met them too... Sophie has the only Barney doll in existence signed by James Marsters, I believe.
However, to get in some BIG names, I have an autographed copy of Bruce Campbells autobiography If Chins Could Kill. 
Yes, Sophie has met him too.
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