22-06-2004 18:45									#181
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To rommel.

	22-06-2004 18:50									#182
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Let's play them in parallel until Rommel confirms everything's OK, or until the two saves catch up to each other. Did Dominae play Rommel's turn? How come Dominae sent directly to Sir Ralph?

By the way, I noticed now that the game is at Regent level. Is that OK? It wasn't what we planned because the terrible barbarians are now less terrible, and it also makes the tech rate go faster (you have to spend less on happiness, and of course techs cost less).

	22-06-2004 19:02									#183
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Alexman is right. The regent setting is no good. Since it's early -- I vote for restart.

Alexman can keep the Russians (Scouts should be wheeled, IMO. It's enough that they always get good results for this game. )

	22-06-2004 19:05									#184
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Rommel asked Dominae to repair this forgotten password with his admin password, but Dominae didn't respond for a while, so we got the parallel turn going. Rommel instructed Dominae what to do, so I suppose Dominae played the turn and hence, passed it directly to me. I don't see what could have failed. By any means, I will send only one save along, even though I get two. I think, I will wait until Rommel replays the 3900BC turn. Shouldn't take long, and I'm still at work for at least 2 hours.

	22-06-2004 19:07									#185
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Oh, and regarding the difficulty level: Yes to restart, but if it goes with the same map (as it should), we should make sure everyone gets the same starting position, may be even the same civ.

	22-06-2004 19:09									#186
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Restart, so long as we get the same starting locations and civs.

	22-06-2004 19:15									#187
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to SR

Oy vey, vhat a mess...

Emperor!

If we use the same map and everything, we'll have to repeat our same moves, right? I don't want to repeat the same bad moves for the fourth time...

	22-06-2004 19:17									#188
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Could we add an AI and up it to Sid?

	22-06-2004 19:23									#189
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If Dominae kept his biq file, it should be easy to get the same civs and map. Otherwise it might not be possible.

I'll PM him...

	22-06-2004 19:48									#190
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I agree that Russia is the best of the chosen civs on this map, but I think wheeled scouts would be too big a blow to the trait. Mountains are where scouts normally try to end their turn, and it's likely that forest/jungle will completely cut off most of the map to wheeled units. Hopefully the raging barbs will take care of many of Russia's scouts.

I have no problem re-assigning tribes, or even adding more expansionist civs (but no AI!), by the way.

	22-06-2004 19:52									#191
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By the way, is settling hills allowed? I've seen in Dom's Jane mod it's off. I think it should be on, how's your opinion?

	22-06-2004 19:58									#192
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Settling on hills is not allowed, as per the first post of this thread. We can certainly allow it if you think it's better.

	22-06-2004 20:00									#193
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keep it disallowed...

	22-06-2004 20:16									#194
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Hmmm, tough one, as I didn't intend to leave it out (it's a mere mistake). After all this game is about adding more tactical choice, and to take away a possible defense bonus is definitely the opposite.

I'd say make settling on hills possible.

	22-06-2004 20:24									#195
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More terrain choices to settle = greater strategic choice = Better gameplay

I thought the AU mod was supposed to create a more strategic element in the game, and that takes it a way.

I would like to settle on hilss, biut if we can't, no biggie.

	22-06-2004 20:38									#196
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By the way, is settling hills allowed? I've seen in Dom's Jane mod it's off. I think it should be on, how's your opinion?

off. settling hills moves us back toward stock too far imo. spreading out cities makes the game interesting.

hopefully, we can just change the level without changing civs or map. if we have to change civs and map, Alex idea of allowing more expansionist civs is good. maybe disallowing them is good also.

	22-06-2004 21:18									#197
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I'm at home now. I won't play yet, but will check this thread regularly, waiting for decisions.

	22-06-2004 21:26									#198
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I PMed Dominae when he was still online this morning. Let's hope he has the original biq file and we can just use the same map and civs.

We are currently 2-2 on the hills issue. I will abstain so that we don't end up with a tie after Gamecube votes.

	22-06-2004 22:35									#199
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I'm saying disallow because that would make fringe cities more vulnerable for elimination, again encouraging less sprawl, leaving more tactical decisions for unit combat instead...

	22-06-2004 23:39									#200
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I vote against settling on hills.

	23-06-2004 06:29									#201
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First turn of the second attempt sent to Sir Ralph.

I somehow threw away the old map, but IMO this new one is much much better. I also forgot who had which civs, so I just randomly assigned them again.

Hope there's no problems this time...

	23-06-2004 10:10									#202
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Another Tarzan? Is this the one with Bo Derek in it? ;-)

I'm personally glad to see a new map, the other one was giving me deja view for some reason...

	23-06-2004 12:31									#203
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I didn't get the turn. I looked up my spam filter, but didn't find it there either.

	23-06-2004 16:30									#204
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Hotmail is offline, that's why. I'll arrange for Sir Ralph to get it another way.

	23-06-2004 16:45									#205
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I loved my start in the other map.

I got the save, but won't be able to play till evening, as today after work a shopping tour for games is scheduled (for which I have to bribe my wife with movie DVDs ).

	23-06-2004 17:00									#206
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph I loved my start in the other map. I got the save, but won't be able to play till evening, as today after work a shopping tour for games is scheduled (for which I have to bribe my wife with movie DVDs ).

This is permissable only if you tell us if you find any good ones

	23-06-2004 17:00									#207
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph I loved my start in the other map.

Sorry...Just forget that game ever happened.

Is it any consolation that IMO this new map will make for a better game than the other one?

	23-06-2004 17:06									#208
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quote: Originally posted by jshelr This is permissable only if you tell us if you find any good ones

The game will be Everquest Europe and maybe some XPs, as I got an invite from a collegue for an online killing spree. It's pretty old, I know, but I'm new to MMORPGs. May be I like it.

The DVDs for my wife will be utter crap. Per definition.

	23-06-2004 19:07									#209
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We're not going to hear from Sir Ralph much anymore once he gets on Evercrack...

	23-06-2004 19:09									#210
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World of Warcrack is much better than that grind-fest!