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t3h y3ll0w p3ril
Apr 1999
time: 23:36
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i understand you're looking for a pure, chaste girl, and they do exist. but the fact remains that they are sexual women as well, meaning that they're not going to be just satisfied with you appreciating their beauty but treating them as if they were devoid of sexuality. |
to continue off of this, it's problematic to reduce women from the complex and bizarre yet ethereally beautiful creatures they are to one-dimensional representations: that of chaste, marble sculpture beauty. to deny their other natures, including the sexual nature, is to imagine as if they were no more than a cold stone statue, devoid of life.
this is not to say that you need to focus on the sexual side of things; indeed, it's a folly to do so if you're truly attracted to one of them. however, to discount it completely...
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t3h y3ll0w p3ril
Apr 1999
time: 23:36
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blah? if they're chaste why would i try to pressure them into having sex (which you seem to be hinting is my only alternative) |
that's bullcrap, and i'm surprised that's how you read that line. there is so much more to a woman that beauty and sexuality. the fact that you seek to reduce women to only those two things, and then discount one of them is disturbing, to say the least.
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ah... okay... what does mine not liking asians have to do with this? |
1. it makes all of your allegations and complaints about others not liking black women entirely hypocritical, full of bullshit, and offensive. it is just as racist to find an asian woman unattractive because of her eyes as it is to find a black woman unattractive because of the size of her caboose. that said, people have differing tastes, and i personally don't find it racist. the fact remained, though, that you yourself found the black example racist while simultaneously perpetrating the racism against asians.
2. the reason why it's involved is because you don't find asian women attractive at all, therefore it follows that you would, of course, naturally find scores of other women with, in your biased opinion, "better faces/bodies".
3. we are, in case you haven't noticed, arguing along two separate threads: the first being that i disagree with your virgin/whore dichotomy, and the second being that i disagree with your assessment that the complete strangers that theben posted are unattractive.
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:36
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there is so much more to a woman that beauty and sexuality. the fact that you seek to reduce women to only those two things, and then discount one of them is disturbing, to say the least. |
how did i possibly say that was all there is to women? where did i say that?
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it makes all of your allegations and complaints about others not liking black women entirely hypocritical, full of bullshit, and offensive |
bringing up things from months ago...
my beef at the time was with david floyd who said he found black women unattractive but gave no reason. i at least give a feature of asian women that i do not find attractive. floyd simply said he didn't like them, causing me to believe that he, like a racist would, simply found them being of a certain race unappealing. he gave no specific attribute.
(and as an aside, the girl i just posted isnt exactly black. Her mother is but her father is white/spanish, hence her fairly light complexion, 'good' hair, etc.)
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the reason why it's involved is because you don't find asian women attractive at all, therefore it follows that you would, of course, naturally find scores of other women with, in your biased opinion, "better faces/bodies". |
bodies have nothing to do with muscle folds over the eyes... nor do some aspects of the face have to do with eye folds...
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and the second being that i disagree with your assessment that the complete strangers that theben posted are unattractive. |
it isnt so much that she is unattractive as that i find theben's behaviour silly (and it is against the forum rules by the way). why is he oggling this woman he doesn't even know when there are equally attractive or more attractive women out there who he could come to know.
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t3h y3ll0w p3ril
Apr 1999
time: 23:36
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how did i possibly say that was all there is to women? where did i say that? |
you did not mention any other part of the woman.
1. your first post focuses entirely on the female's physical appearance
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the proper human body, whether male or female, is beautiful and is a work of perfection... such an artful body is also devoid of sexuality. i admire beauty without sensuality to the fullest... the female's lithe, hourglass figure with gentle curving hips, thick thighs, muscular yet streamlined calves... the hairless male's wide shoulders, muscular torso, and robust calves... |
you reduce the human body into sculptural forms, focusing only on the physical attributes. the only mention of any other trait outside of the physical beauty you refer to is sexuality, which you discount as you bring it up.
3. nowhere do you mention other possible traits of she who is woman. rather, you consistently post that sexuality is bad or disgusting, and the only mention of females after those initial posts you have is of a girl's sexuality being violated.
4. your complaint about the asian women that theben posted lay not in the merit of their personality or their sexuality, but their physical form.
it is not what you said, albert, so much as what you have not said and seem to have no inclination of saying.
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my beef at the time was with david floyd who said he found black women unattractive but gave no reason. i at least give a feature of asian women that i do not find attractive. floyd simply said he didn't like them, causing me to believe that he, like a racist would, simply found them being of a certain race unappealing. he gave no specific attribute. |
so it's ok to give an attribute as to why a female of a certain ethnicity is unappealing to you, but to make a general statement that an ethnicity is not attractive is suddenly racist?
sorry, that's not good enough albert. if we're going to call what floyd did as racist, your statement is still racist as well.
after all, david floyd is *presumably* white... why bring asians into this tiff in which you tried to paint blacks as victims of some sort of imagined racism by white people in general? indeed, you didn't just confine that racism charge against just david floyd, but shot it out towards the entire apolyton community.
do you somehow seek to disavow those comments? fine, but then you will not apologize for those racist remarks, either. are you saying you never meant those words? too bad, because even throwaway words by white people are used against them as ammunition, and just because you aren't white doesn't mean you'll get a free i'm-not-a-racist pass.
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(and as an aside, the girl i just posted isnt exactly black. Her mother is but her father is white/spanish, hence her fairly light complexion, 'good' hair, etc.) |
oh goody, she's not all black. she is, however, not asian, and therefore she is more attractive to you for that reason.
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bodies have nothing to do with muscle folds over the eyes... nor do some aspects of the face have to do with eye folds... |
that is not my argument. the argument is that you do not find asian women attractive, and the one feature you did give were the epicanthic folds. it follows, however, that because you do not find the folds attractive, and you do not find asian women as a whole attractive, that you would naturally feel that there are more attractive females, face/body wise than the ones theben posted, both of whom are asiatic.
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it isnt so much that she is unattractive as that i find theben's behaviour silly (and it is against the forum rules by the way). why is he oggling this woman he doesn't even know when there are equally attractive or more attractive women out there who he could come to know. |
who are, given the public statements you've made both now and in the past, are not asian women.
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:36
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you did not mention any other part of the woman.
1. your first post focuses entirely on the female's physical appearance |
this is a ****ing picture thread. what else could we talk about?
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:36
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so it's ok to give an attribute as to why a female of a certain ethnicity is unappealing to you, but to make a general statement that an ethnicity is not attractive is suddenly racist? |
yes exactly... i dont see the problem... I dont like blue-eyed women because i dont like how their eyes look... i dont like fat women because, well, their fat bodies are not appealing to me...
but for me to say i dont like any member of a whole race of people without saying a specific attribute that i dont like... that is far different.
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Dance Dance for the Revolution!
Jan 1970
time: 00:36
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Originally posted by Q Cubed
theben, please tell me you don't have yellow fever. |
I admit to having a preference for asians & whites over others, but there is no ethnic/racial group that I would reject a person from for acquaintance/friend/companion if I felt it was right. If I do have yellow fever, it's a very mild case. Certainly not to the degree of the men in the article I posted years ago.
Ever since I was very young I've had an interest in things Japanese (I used to read on the Pacific War when I was six), and it since grew from there to include most east asian cultures. I majored in Japanese History in college, and you can't study Japanese history w/o knowledge of the surrounding nations/cultures. My preference probably grew from a combination of these things.
In this particular case another poster had linked a site from China to a thread and part of that site has pictures of asian women. I swiped some for this thread.
Speer, the reason I posted those pictures was an attempt to put this thread back on topic, which is 'pictures of pretty girls'. Sorry if you don't like them, but no one is forcing you to look in here.
Unlike you, I don't have any picture discs made nor a camera for my computer. However, I'm curious if you asked that girl for permission to slap her face on the internet several times. Anyone I was interested in I would ask 1st before doing so. The women in those pictures have already entered into some sort of contract to have their pictures on the internet and therefore I've violated no privacy concerns of theirs. Can't say the same for you.
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t3h y3ll0w p3ril
Apr 1999
time: 23:36
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yes exactly... i dont see the problem... I dont like blue-eyed women because i dont like how their eyes look... i dont like fat women because, well, their fat bodies are not appealing to me... |
blue-eyed and fat women, are, last i checked, not ethnicities.
asian women, last i checked, were asian, which is an ethnicity.
you say you don't like a whole race of people because of one specific attribute... how is that not racist? if i said that i did not like blacks because i dislike their hair, would that not be racist? but of course, you saying that you don't like asians because of our eyes isn't. right... 
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:36
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Theben:
i dont have to worry about privacy/permission... i already have it.
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blue-eyed and fat women, are, last i checked, not ethnicities.
asian women, last i checked, were asian, which is an ethnicity. |
how about this... i dont like epicanthic eye folds on a woman... it aint my fault that asians have them. i've seen women of other ethnicities with similiar eyes and i didnt like that aspect of them either.
i dont like the eyes... it isnt that i dont like asians per se.
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:36
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i dont like a characteristic... it just so happens people of a certain ethnicity have this characteristic. it isnt that i dont like that ethnicity. it's just that i dont like that specific characteristic removed from ethnicity.
david floyd doesnt like a race of people by virtue of their race. big difference.
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:36
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i dont like a trait... he doesnt like a race. it's simple as that. like i've said, i've met women who arent asian who also have eye folds. i didnt find them attractive either.
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:36
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if anything, i prefer spanish girls... but i can see them anytime i want to by going outside... so i aint waiting for you to post up pictures
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24-07-2004 05:17
i don't know what's worse... extreme cases of yellow fever, or extreme antipathy towards asian facial structures.
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