27-06-2004 17:47									#91
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After the legitimate Tassadarian government crumbles, I might lend some of the Arch-Capitalist's mercenaries to Frankychan.
For a fee, of course.

	27-06-2004 20:55									#92
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Franky,

End of turn or no?

	28-06-2004 10:26									#93
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Now it is.

I suggest we agree to his cease-fire. Other ideas?

	28-06-2004 10:46									#94
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Unconditional surrender of all FCL and Hive forces inside Azani territory.

	28-06-2004 11:16									#95
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this should be discussed in character , not here...

	28-06-2004 11:55									#96
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I suspect most of us outsiders could probably accept a ceasefire because of the high costs of continued war, but Azan would never accept dividing up their territory.

	28-06-2004 11:59									#97
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Can we have a map update? I don't particularly want a repeat of the After incident, with a vast army being assembled to take an empty city.

	28-06-2004 13:04									#98
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The After "problem" had nothing to do with needing an updated map. Frankychan realised he had forgot to post his pullout of the city after his turn had already ended.

Except for territory that Frankychan has conceded (Kaimuki, for example) the map is the same.

	28-06-2004 13:08									#99
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quote: Originally posted by Mr. President I suspect most of us outsiders could probably accept a ceasefire because of the high costs of continued war, but Azan would never accept dividing up their territory.

I reckon a lot of the allied troops can be supplied, at least partly, by Azani sources (e.g. food, medicine, and fuel), alleviating the problem some.

	28-06-2004 13:21									#100
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quote: Originally posted by Rasputin this should be discussed in character , not here...

I think we should discuss what we're going to do before we post it. Unless we're roleplaying our nation as a bunch of cowboys, that is.

	28-06-2004 13:24									#101
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Agreed

	28-06-2004 13:27									#102
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Oh, and regarding the cease-fire: the official attitude of Centralis towards it is that as long as there are FCL troops in Azan, it isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

	28-06-2004 13:28									#103
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"Unconditional"? Seriously though, I've taken Mr. Prez' earlier comments that we should consider wrapping this up. Tassadaria has entered the picture now and our NationStates forum is flourishing once again (from the stagnation it once was). Everything is going good here so we shouldn't beat a dead horse, so to speak.

I'm thinking in maybe a few turns we should resolve this issue so we can have other stuff happening.

(Sorry, just want all of us to have a good time here. )

	28-06-2004 13:37									#104
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Pity.
I was hoping for thread #3.

	28-06-2004 13:42									#105
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Well,

I figured that I'll go easy on you all so you don't surrender to me.....but of course, there's always the more logical option of having YOU GUYS surrender.

	28-06-2004 15:26									#106
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Sure.
I'll arrange for a junior officer of the Gonorian Soviet to hand over his machete, in an extremely submissive gesture of surrender.

	29-06-2004 02:52									#107
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quote: Originally posted by Frankychan "Unconditional"? Seriously though, I've taken Mr. Prez' earlier comments that we should consider wrapping this up. Tassadaria has entered the picture now and our NationStates forum is flourishing once again (from the stagnation it once was). Everything is going good here so we shouldn't beat a dead horse, so to speak. I'm thinking in maybe a few turns we should resolve this issue so we can have other stuff happening. (Sorry, just want all of us to have a good time here. )

I agree. Let's try to roleplay ourselves to a solution in 2 or 3 turns. There's lots of other things happening in the region these days.

Besides, we can always start a "history of the fcl/azan conflict" thread and argue about what happened if we start to miss this roleplay later.

	29-06-2004 10:45									#108
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But, but, but I am only interested in beating up Frankychan

	29-06-2004 10:59									#109
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quote: Originally posted by joncha I think we should discuss what we're going to do before we post it. Unless we're roleplaying our nation as a bunch of cowboys, that is.

surely though we discuss it in character...

	29-06-2004 11:03									#110
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I am hoping for more than a cease fire... PeACE is what we need

	29-06-2004 12:00									#111
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If you really want, Ras, we can start a whole new thread for us to discuss our side's negotiations in character. Personally, I think we can manage it here first, and then post the results in character.

What does everyone else think?

	29-06-2004 12:27									#112
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I think the least we should ask for is for the total and complete withdrawal of all FCL/Hive forces beyond the internatioanally recognised border.

Then we talk payments for damages and stuff.

	29-06-2004 14:00									#113
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What UR said. However, I don't know how much we can reasonably ask for in the way of damages - it's not like FCL can pay a whole lot. In any case, if we wanted to be consistent about things, Auldoninna would have to pay too.

	29-06-2004 15:28									#114
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Auldonina has already begun reconstruction work...


The other allys should pay for any damage they did in their attacks...

	30-06-2004 08:28									#115
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quote: Originally posted by Rasputin Auldonina has already begun reconstruction work...

In the middle of a war?

quote: Originally posted by Rasputin The other allys should pay for any damage they did in their attacks...

The main point is your country were invading Azan for awhile.

	30-06-2004 13:31									#116
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quote: Originally posted by Rasputin The other allys should pay for any damage they did in their attacks...

Unlikely.

	30-06-2004 14:00									#117
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger In the middle of a war? The main point is your country were invading Azan for awhile.

Yes we posted ages ago, we had brought in engineers to reconstruct the highways and bridges destroyed in the fighting.

We are happy to rebuild Azan, which is unlike the Allies who seem unwilling.

	30-06-2004 21:22									#118
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We're in the middle of a war, Ras. Reconstruction now is a little unrealistic, no?

	01-07-2004 05:38									#119
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if i didnt rebuild the highways how do we get around. if i dont rebuild the bridges we cant cross the rivers


the war in the west of azan seems t ohave ended a long time ago with no action from either side for some time. So their is no threat to the engineers who are working hard on helping the locals.

Your nations may be fearful of sending in your support crews but we are not, its a job that has to be done and we are getting it done....

We will do whatever it takes to get AZAN back into action, unlike the Allys who have strormed in destryoed much and done little to say what they going to do long term for the restablishment of the nation.

I hope Azan remembers it was Ausdlonina that removed the previous Terrorist regime that ran Azan thereby creating the power vacuum that the new leaders could enter into. It was Auldonina that has regained most of Azan territory . It is Auldonina that first suggested a cease fire to get Azan back into a reasonable order.

If necessary Audlonina will pay for the whole reconstruction of Azan, it may take longer that way, but we will do it. The alys cab do as they always do and go play with themsleves....

	01-07-2004 06:41									#120
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Yes, let's just ignore all the offers of aid from the non-Auldoninnan nations, and the fact that the alleged 'terrorist regime' appears to be a figment of Rasputin's imagination