12-06-2004 11:25									#31
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quote: And Hilary's marriage isn't a measure of success. She wasn't doing her wifely duties and slobbin the ole' knob.

Exactly.

To shamelessly rip off Chris Rock...

quote: Hilary Clinton put us all in danger! She put the security of the free world in jeopardy and she needs to suffer the consequences for her actions! She's the first lady! She supposed to be the first one on her knees to suck his dick! ****! Monica Lewinsky shouldn't even have stood a chance! Hilary's supposed to already be down there like "Hey, hey, I got it, I got it! I got it! I got the dick! Tickle his ass or something, tickle his ass! Grab a ball, make yourself useful!"

	12-06-2004 11:49									#33
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Amzing how much unwanted imagery can fit into a few short sentences...

I don't much care for the Clintons anymore than I care for Rush Limbaugh. Hillary's marriage to Bill is, in my mind, nothing more than for political advantage. I've always felt it was a loveless marriage, that they put on a show when it serves their purposes. However, no matter how bad things got between them or their image they've never called it quits even as it became clear to everyone that continuing the marriage made no sense. A lot of people were expecting them to divorce after leaving the White House; hell, they might still do so, but it's been 4 years already. Rush's 1st marriage lasted all of 2 years, his second lasted 6. This last one lasted 10. Good for him. Must've been all the painkillers he was stuffing into his mouth over the past few years.

People that beat their chests about the "family values" of others need to put their money where their mouth is. Rush is good at stuffing his face and spewing sh!t out. He needs to put up or shut up.

	12-06-2004 12:45									#34
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk Very profitable BS, apparently.

It always has been.

You look at people ranging from the televangelists to psychics with their own TV shows. It's such a vast wasteland out there.

	12-06-2004 12:52									#35
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And they say gay marriage has bad effects on society?

	12-06-2004 14:48									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Theben He and Newt Gingerich should collaborate on a best seller.

"Wives we've f**ked"...it'll do great

	12-06-2004 18:52									#37
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk Not really, both are forms of abuse. http://www.network54.com/Realm/Heal...t/batinfid.html

Yeah, sure it is. What a load of BS.

Infidelity is wrong, but it's not abuse, and the reasons behind it are vastly different from violence, as are the effects. Equating the two is an insult to the people who have suffered real abuse in relationships.

My point stands that the only available measure of a "successful" marriage is whether or not they couple remains together. Second-guessing the Clintons' relationship is easy, but knowing the truth is not. Frankly, I'm not convinced it is entirely the cynical political arrangement people like to assume. There is a great deal of complexity in human relationships, and I think there's a lot there most people don't understand.

	12-06-2004 19:15									#38
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quote: My point stands that the only available measure of a "successful" marriage is whether or not they couple remains together.

I dunno. Repeated affairs with little to no remorse on the over the course of the marriage seems like a very big tip off that the marriage is loveless. And the term sucessful marriage seems to loose some of its meaning if its sole barometer is chronological.

	12-06-2004 23:07									#39
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Clearly this woman was a monster because she didn't stick by her husband when he was dealing with a terrible drug addiction.

	12-06-2004 23:37									#40
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I say she finally came to her senses and displayed some taste.

	12-06-2004 23:58									#41
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quote: Or that she's willing to sell her soul and bootstrap to her "husband" in order to advance her own political career.

Hillary has a soul?

	13-06-2004 00:07									#42
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Not if she sold it.

	13-06-2004 00:09									#43
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Well she had one before that?

	13-06-2004 00:12									#44
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You think Satan wouldn't inspect the merchandise beforehand?

	13-06-2004 01:14									#45
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I don't understand the right's obsession with Hillary. I guess some men just can't stand the presence of a strong woman.

	13-06-2004 01:24									#46
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Yeah right

Elizabeth Dole

	13-06-2004 01:36									#47
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quote: Elizabeth Dole

sure, because she buys into the whole submissive women/conservative mentality... I'm talking about women like Hillary... feminists, women who represent equality and liberation... not just repressive conservative values.

Although it's good that you bring up Elizabeth Dole. It is interesting to compare how liberals treat conservative women compared to how conservatives treat liberal women. I never hear how conservative women are attacked as viciously as the right attacks liberal women.

I guess liberals just have more respect for women.

Now shouldn't you go back to saying how, "you'd hit it"? I'd hate to interupt your chauvinism.

	13-06-2004 01:46									#48
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Submissive? Hardly. Elizabeth Dole is a very strong woman.

The problem with the whole feminism movement is that somewhere along the lines it confused assertiveness and independence with being an *******.

Nowadays when a women is cold, rude, or selfish she's looked at by the feminists as a role model, a "strong woman." A woman that attempts to be kind or, God forbid, actually comprimising, is seen as weak and submissive.

The popular line goes like this, "when a man is being aggressive and assertive, it's called being ambitious, but when a woman does the same thing, she's a b1tch."

Sounds good but it's far from reality.

In reality when a man is being a jerk, he's a jerk, plain and simple. The same aggressive and selfish behaviors that men do also apply to women. If she's being a b1tch, she's being a b1tch. There is nothing strong about it, and almost always it is a sign of inner weakness, for either sex.

And some of these women wonder why they end up sad and lonely?

Reagan was known for his kindness. One story goes, when he was shot and in the hospital, he spilled a container of water. He got down on his hands and knees and cleaned it up himself, because he didn't want the nurses to get in trouble. Was he submissive and weak?

	13-06-2004 01:53									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Sava Now shouldn't you go back to saying how, "you'd hit it"? I'd hate to interupt your chauvinism.

By the way, nice avatar. I'm sure you respect her as an equal and for her personality, and her strength right?

I'd hit it.

	13-06-2004 01:55									#50
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Yeah, I'd hit it. STRONGLY

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	13-06-2004 02:14									#51
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What, Ted? You'd hit Sava?

	13-06-2004 02:24									#52
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He's not exactly a connoisseur ...

	13-06-2004 05:20									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Submissive? Hardly. Elizabeth Dole is a very strong woman. The problem with the whole feminism movement is that somewhere along the lines it confused assertiveness and independence with being an *******. Nowadays when a women is cold, rude, or selfish she's looked at by the feminists as a role model, a "strong woman." A woman that attempts to be kind or, God forbid, actually comprimising, is seen as weak and submissive.

You're confusing extreme femnists with moderate feminists. The legacy of feminism includes greater equality for women -- nothing outrageous about that. I shudder when I think where all women would be today if it were not for the feminists of past decades.


How do you like it when people talk about Republicans using only extremists as examples with the presumption that those extremists represent all Republicans as if they were a single, monolithic group?

	13-06-2004 05:29									#55
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quote: How do you like it when people talk about Republicans using only extremists as examples with the presumption that those extremists represent all Republicans as if they were a single, monolithic group?

That could also be rephrased as:

quote: Welcome to the Apolyton OTF! Hope you enjoy your stay with us!

	13-06-2004 05:45									#56
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JT

	13-06-2004 05:58									#57
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quote: Oh hard is the fortune of all womankind They're always controlled, they're always confined Confined by their parents until they are wives Then slaves to their husbands for the rest of their lives

	13-06-2004 06:29									#58
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Wait a minute. Who the heck, having married Hillary, would ever risk getting married again?

	13-06-2004 06:45									#59
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun yeppers -- I see the error of my ways now

Yeah, but will you change your lifestyle b/c of it?

	13-06-2004 09:14									#60
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I'd marry Hillary in a heartbeat. Hell, she'll be president soon and that means I'd get to be First Consort.