17-06-2004 10:02									#91
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quote: Is it because you lost the bigger argument?

Bigger argument meaning Lucas as executive producer has the right to make these changes (as seen by the fact that he has done it)?

In that case, you are admitting you lost.

	17-06-2004 14:29									#92
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Bigger argument as in "it depends upon what the contracts say". Remember you claimed that

quote: The executive producer will have power over final edits and/or additions.

whereas the fact is that this blanket statement just isn't so, and is, in fact, dependant upon the contractual details the producer signed with the director.

	17-06-2004 19:40									#93
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But it's true here. The executive producer DOES have power over final edits and/or additions... or else Lucas couldn't have done.

	17-06-2004 19:47									#94
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But it's true here. The executive producer DOES have power over final edits and/or additions... or else Lucas couldn't have done.

	17-06-2004 19:54									#95
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No one cares if Lucas has the right..we only care that he is very good at screwing a good thing, and that given his horrid track record as anything other than a producer and originator of the concept shows if he gets his hands on a film, in general he can ony hurt the story, no matter how mcuh prettier he makes the film.

	17-06-2004 20:39									#96
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Lucas doesn't care about which version you want to see, Garth. That's the point of cutting up the films.

Right and that's why I didn't buy the special editions, and that's why I would really like to not buy the DVD's when they came out.

I am just pissed because my copies on tape won't last forever, then what am I going to do?

	17-06-2004 20:58									#97
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If Lucas doesn't release the original versions on DVD, he's certainly gonna give a boost to the black market ...

Now, what I don't understand is, if he feels the old movies aren't good enough, why doesn't he make a bunch of remakes? He'd, little doubt, rake in absurd amounts of money.

	17-06-2004 21:06									#98
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quote: If Lucas doesn't release the original versions on DVD, he's certainly gonna give a boost to the black market ...

You know, part of me thinks that after Episode III is released, Lucas is going to declare that he WILL release the originals in their original glory to celebrate the entire series, but in order to get them you have to buy the 6-pack of Star Wars movies.

quote: I am just pissed because my copies on tape won't last forever, then what am I going to do?

Not watch Star Wars?

	17-06-2004 21:27									#99
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Can we all acknowledge that Thorn wants to do obscene things to the backstreet boy who played Anakin so he doesn't have to keep telling us? Good.

Moving on, does anybody know of any attempts to petition His Binksness for a release of the originals? His vanity could be soothed by explaining it as an historical record of the evolution of his genius and blah blah blah.

	17-06-2004 21:40									#100
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Not watch Star Wars?

Ha, Ha... can't see that happening

	17-06-2004 22:37									#101
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui But it's true here. The executive producer DOES have power over final edits and/or additions... or else Lucas couldn't have done.

Congratulations on nailing me again on a point that I already conceded. Dem law classes have dun ya good!

	17-06-2004 23:28									#102
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elok: www.originaltrilogy.com

	17-06-2004 23:31									#103
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quote: Congratulations on nailing me again on a point that I already conceded.

Thank you for agreeing with my statement then. I have no idea what offended you so if you keep concurring with me .

	17-06-2004 23:34									#104
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FIGHT! FIGHT!

	17-06-2004 23:36									#105
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: Congratulations on nailing me again on a point that I already conceded. Thank you for agreeing with my statement then. I have no idea what offended you so if you keep concurring with me .

The point that I'm trying to make is this:

Not all executive producers have the godlike powers you ascribed to them in the first post I quoted. Why you kept on arguing the point is beyond me... it's not like the statement is that hard to refute.

	17-06-2004 23:37									#106
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FIGHT! FIGHT!

	17-06-2004 23:39									#107
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I want to see blood in this thread. I want to see death.
And maybe we'll have two conservatives less

	17-06-2004 23:45									#108
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quote: Not all executive producers have the godlike powers you ascribed to them in the first post I quoted. Why you kept on arguing the point is beyond me... it's not like the statement is that hard to refute.

I didn't ascribe to them godlike powers... I ascribed it to Lucas, and he does.

	17-06-2004 23:46									#109
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quote: The executive producer will have power over final edits and/or additions.

Not my quote.

Anyway, at least I'm not suffering the embarrassment of having suggested robotic stilts for the height differential between the various Darth Vader iterations.

	18-06-2004 01:20									#110
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And the executive producer IS..... (drumroll) George Lucas! And he does. Thank you ;p.

quote: I'm not suffering the embarrassment of having suggested robotic stilts for the height differential between the various Darth Vader iterations.

Neither am I.

	18-06-2004 01:45									#111
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quote: Well, that can be explained by the fact that Vader was more machine than man by ANH (robot stilts ).

	18-06-2004 01:55									#112
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quote: I'm not suffering the embarrassment of having suggested robotic stilts for the height differential between the various Darth Vader iterations.

Again, neither am I (refer to the bolded part please)