22-06-2004 07:39									#1
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Hey people DeityDude and I are planning to get together with other civ players and have a whole 3 day weekend to play Civ!! We are tenative planning a whole 3 day play-off basically but before we get to far into it we would like to see people's interest in attending this.

We are planning to hold it on August 27-29. I know that some of you would have to take that Friday off but I believe that it would be well worth the vaction days! I have a big house and I may have access to a bigger house that people can stay at and where we can play, either way we can fit alot of people in either mine or the other house. I'm going to provide the computers and network them all togther. I am also checking into getting a server together for this.

Since this is only 2 months to go and I guess this kind of short notice. We could use other peoples help in this also.

I and DeityDude live in the Detroit area. We know some Civ players from MI that will be here for sure and so far 1 maybe 2 more from IN. So I know there are alot more of you in the tri-state area out there. Or even further if you don't mind the drive.

We will ask for some donations but mainly bring some food to grill and whatever your other "things" may be! So go ahead and post your thoughts or get ahold of DeityDude with icq 157-329-419
or yahoo as bob_wland_2000
Or me Dankmaster icq 84-324-908 yahoo as danklizard
Aim as dmgoldsworthy or sometimes msn nugget420@hotmail.com (I'm gonna get a new account just for this so this will change)

This will be fun guys so lets make this all work and get off your lazy bums and COME TO CIVSTOCK 2004!!!!

	22-06-2004 12:08									#2
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I'll bring the half OZ of crack

	22-06-2004 16:21									#3
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Come on people I know people are looking at this. I must assume that they don't live any where in Ohio, Indiana or Michigan but some of do know of people that might. We'd really like to pull this all of and I know we could with your help. So spread the word to others and lets make this a yearly event. Also I'd like to add that the server idea would include a "Zone" style site where we can meet and start up a game. So I'd like to see your input on this also. Thanks guys lets do this!!!!

	22-06-2004 17:39									#4
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While I live in Chicago, and can't really consider making the trip because of family obligations... I would suggest people near by give it some consideration. I hosted a civ week, and Berz, War4ever, rah, JRabbit and I had a blast. We had the computers set up and just played a ton of Civ... (when we weren't playing golf) It sure beats the heck out of King Chat when you yell across the room instead.

I hope you get a lot of people, and enjoy it as much as we did.

	22-06-2004 19:59									#5
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Sounds like fun, but I'm a Marylander now, so I doubt I'd be able to make it. I'll be back in Michigan next month for a bit, but usually on my vacation back to the Greak Lakes state I want to spend it visiting friends and family.

Although I will spread the word to two of my friends back home who may be interested in coming for it. Buddy is off teather now, so he should (in theory) be able to make it. Brandon is unemployed now, so he should (in theory) be able to make it too.

I'll let them know.

	23-06-2004 03:10									#6
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Dank...sounds like fun I'll have to check with my wife. She is currently having a "girls only vacation" and will be back Friday. It only fair I could have a "guys only" weekend.

	23-06-2004 03:28									#7
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Oh...I'm afraid of Detroit

	23-06-2004 03:42									#8
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I'm interested.

	23-06-2004 03:57									#9
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Ok people there seems to be a interest brewing...why don't you guys make some game sugetions


1x1x deity
we will be playing duals only in the "play-off" parts of it unless someone comes up with a really good reason to have ai in the game
med. map (once again tell me why not we shouldn't)
1 restart for each person before 3000bc (see above)
Random map (once again see above)
Turned base-no sim (look up)
play your turns fast

Now add or change or come up with something else that you think we need.

Also I will be giving you more of the stuff we have come up with but I will tell you all one thing. We are planning a pig roast on the last day!!! So get involved!

	23-06-2004 04:31									#10
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I'm in for sure!!!!!!!!!!!

	23-06-2004 08:44									#11
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I can't come - sorry Dank

	23-06-2004 08:52									#12
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Just Kidding

I'll bring a 1/4 barrel of a local Mcihigan brew from one of the many brewpubs in the area.

I know the pig roast was my idea. I hope u dont think that means I have any idea where to find a pig or how to roast it. Well anyways I've got awhile to research LOL.

And its a good thing Zylka is coming with the crack, not that anyone we know would want it. But seriously what would a Detroit thread be without a reference to murder, crack or a good riot.

Thanks for the originality Zylka.

	23-06-2004 15:44									#13
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Now come on just because we passed up New York in murders does not mean that it's a bad place . And why bring your own crack? When you can just cross 8-mile for fresh crack.....lol......Just kidding guys. I live outside of the city in Ferndale MI if anyone wants to map quest to my town.

	23-06-2004 16:22									#14
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	24-06-2004 12:46									#15
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I've got a one way ticket to Chicago, but can't use it

	24-06-2004 15:20									#16
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Thats a drag man. Sure would be cool to have you here man.

	25-06-2004 03:47									#17
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OK people alot of you have been looking at this and not many have provide us with their keen-insights (slighty sacastic?)

I'd really like to hear from everyone even those who are not gonna be able to make it. Right now as it stands we are 4 people with a posibility of a 5th. They are as follows:

DankMaster
DeityDude
Civ2guru
Weldingrod
and maybe
Jon

We'd love to have at least more then 8 people come over to play. Lets hear some questions or sugestions that you may have.

And just a fyi Detroit is not really bad and I live outside of the city.

	25-06-2004 05:03									#18
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The normal (not the small) map in the standard civ2 game sounds cool. We really should have at least a couple of ai's in the game to keep everyone "honest". I don't like playing in games where these guys have 40 or 50 cities all pretty much empty and undefended. With ai's, you can't "cheat" like that on city defense - because you never know when the ai will march into your cities if you don't defend them. Besides, they have nice tech to steal and they generally make things more interesting. 1 versus 1 is kind of boring, anyway. And also, only Civ2 wussies can't handle ai's!! lol

	25-06-2004 05:28									#19
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Dude I told you that you can't leave undefened cities and have those kind of numbers in 1x1x deity and you know that. This is a dual. The goal of the game is primarly military. But your idea is ok but I still don't like it.

If others have their sugestions put them up. There is one and Civ2 knows I didn't like it when we talked on the phone. Ask Joe how he is doing agaist me in the dual game of ours.

	25-06-2004 06:19									#20
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Are you fronting Tiger tickets? Oh, and "haha" at Zylka's "joke" about "crack."

	25-06-2004 06:20									#21
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Im not for AI's - it uunbalancees the game. If I can get an AI near me and other don't I have a huge advantage - especially in 1x1x

	25-06-2004 06:22									#22
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just thinking off the top of my head - but it might be cool to make each day a different theme - one day could be OCC another could be duels another could be evryone who shows up in one big game

	25-06-2004 06:27									#23
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See people INPUT. Now we are getting some where. And Dylan no Tiger tickets but I do have passes to a toppless club by me!!!.....and I planned on giving them to anyone who comes and we all go out. Of course I'm not buying your drinks or your dances!!

	25-06-2004 07:29									#24
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Well. Heres my input. Or Hillbilly input as dank would say. The Duel part sounds good to me It should show the stronger player. An ai game would take longer to play also and we only have 3 days. And for me 12 hours or more will be on the road if i drive. Or maybe a little less for a civer from out of town. Having a play off would be fun like Dank and Deity suggested because the winner could would have braggin rights for a long time. But if there is less than 6 of us that can make it to the game...I suggest haveing one big game over the 3 days on a bigger map. Maybe a map bigger than the 100x100 the game allows. I have a map maker that makes up too 180x180 maps. Might be fun cussing each other from the room and offering trades verbaly to see how someone else will react lol. Just a suggestion. Or maybe play one big game with no trading tech with anyone. An alliance could leave one civ hangin out to dry though. Unless someone has a suggestion to keep things more even. Well.... Thats my input. Any way we do it it will be fun. Cant wait to play and meet evryone

	26-06-2004 04:31									#25
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Dank: I'm in But if I get mugged driving to Detroit I'll never forgive you

Here is my input:

I like ai's and don't feel they unbalance the game at all. Duels are cool and i am assuming raging hords? I think a small map would be super because it would be a quicker game and we only have 3 nights to play (or days) Please email with anything you want me to bring. It will take around 5 hrs to get to your house so i can pack meats...ect in a cooler. Anyway we do it we all will have a great time

	26-06-2004 05:26									#26
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Dylan, do we have a male bonding problem now?

	26-06-2004 06:35									#27
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Well since we are only 5 right now the vote stands as follows:

2 for ai
3 for no ai

If more people want your way (Jon and Civ2) then I'll cocede to you. But I will say if it is that way then I'm almost for a 5 way or more depending how it works. DeityDudes and mine idea rest mainly on having at least 8 players so if we end up with lets say only 7 then I would totally consider just a 7 way.

	28-06-2004 05:10									#28
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I thought my vote counted twice

	28-06-2004 05:23									#29
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Only Civ2 would come up with a good enough reason to have his vote counted twice and only I would find a reason to tell him he was wrong!!!.......lol.....Man can't believe it that we are only 5 still. Also DeityDude has come up with a good idea to call our little get together. I'll let him explain when he can.

	29-06-2004 16:49									#30
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Well another day has past and still we are only 5. DeityDude and I realize that 2 months is pretty much short notice for some but come on people!!! I thought we would at least get 10 people geeked up on this idea of ours!

As it is looking now we will just make it 3 days of civ playing. No "play-offs" this time. We hope to make this a yearly event. So if you could make it next year would ya?