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Giancarlo is offline Giancarlo
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With the same endless charade of nonsense and lies... when does this man quit with the lies... all his films are full of them. I remember "Bowling for Columbine" which was full of lies and statistical errors. The man has said he is only in it for the money and no way his Fahreneit 9/11 crap will change the outcome of an election (because it blatantly lies about the president and 9/11). Just another political profit for this sick man.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm..._fahrenheit_911

I don't need to be listening what happening from a 300 pound leftist. The man has no clue and is just utterly braindead.

http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/o...nists/23542.htm

By Johnathan Foreman

June 23, 2004— For all its clever slickness, Michael Moore’s “Fahren heit 9/11” does not stack up to such brilliant but evil art as Leni Riefenstahl’s propaganda films for Hitler. But it is art in the sense that any piece of effective political propaganda — Julius Streicher’s “Der Sturmer” magazine, the famous Che poster from Alberto Korda’s photo, even the anti-Goldwater mushroom-cloud TV ad put out by LBJ — can be taken as art.

Alert critics will doubtless point out its artistic flaws. For example, its most moving sequence — which features audio from the World Trade Center attacks played over a black screen — is a direct ripoff of Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu’s 11-minute segment in the 2003 film “9/11/01”

What makes “Fahrenheit 9/11” notable is that feature-length movie-house agitprop is a relatively rare and new thing, and that so far it has been treated (for instance by the Cannes Film Festival jury) as something more than the clever (if breathtakingly sleazy) political propaganda that it is.

And the film does offer some valuable lessons for everyone — though not in its topics: 9/11, Osama bin Laden, Iraq, the “stolen” 2000 election, the Bush administration’s fondness for the Saudis, the U.S. armed forces’ supposed recruiting from the “starving” unemployed masses or any of the mutually exclusive conspiracy theories the movie puts forward.

No, the lessons of “Fahrenheit 9/11” have to do with the general degradation of our political discourse, the gross dishonesty of our most feted “documentary” filmmaker and with what Michael Moore’s super-popularity in Hollywood and France adds to what we already know about the ignorance and intellectual poverty of the movie industry and the pathetic, spiteful hostility of our French “allies.”

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Excellent. Quoting an opinion piece from NYP.

Giancarlo is offline Giancarlo
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Excellent. Quoting an opinion piece from NYP.


What was I supposed to do? Quote something from Michael Moore's own website or from some leftist website? The fictitious movie is disgusting and just spits on America as a whole. There is only a right and a wrong in this, and I stand as right.

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There is only a right and a wrong in this, and I stand as right.


Wrong.

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Giancarlo is offline Giancarlo
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Wrong.


No, no. I'm very right. Michael Moore can only speak lies.
He was probably born that way.

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quote:
Originally posted by Giancarlo
June 23, 2004— For all its clever slickness, Michael Moore’s “Fahren heit 9/11” does not stack up to such brilliant but evil art as Leni Riefenstahl’s propaganda films for Hitler. But it is art in the sense that any piece of effective political propaganda — Julius Streicher’s “Der Sturmer” magazine, the famous Che poster from Alberto Korda’s photo, even the anti-Goldwater mushroom-cloud TV ad put out by LBJ — can be taken as art.




So true! All I can say is, that Michael Moore is worse than Hitler!

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Worse than SADDAM even!

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That's one hostile review.

The FRENCH like him. The FRENCH!!!

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The French are morons, and why does Moore say nothing about the French incompetence as far as counter-terrorism goes? Moore is a moron like them. People might go see his movie, but I think the reviews will be highly negative.

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Throw Moore from a helicopter.

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I think the spelling of this word should be changed. Let it be spelled mooron from now on!

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That could be seen as anti-Islamic, couldn't it?

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That could be seen as anti-Islamic, couldn't it?


So what? Don't you know that these islamists are terrorists? TERRORISTS???

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"Get A BRAIN! MORANS" - Bubba "The Mullet" Bob, southern republican.

EDIT: Quote corrected.

Last edited by DRoseDARs on 24-06-2004 at 13:36

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you mean this fella?

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Giancarlo is offline Giancarlo
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Now seriously, what do you guys think of Moore? A retard or jesus?

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Somewhere in between. I don't know who bends the truth the most - him or the White House?...

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you mean this fella?


What a maroon!

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Now seriously, what do you guys think of Moore? A retard or jesus?


A bit of both.

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giancarlo ... serious ...

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Now seriously, what do you guys think of Moore? A retard or jesus?


Actually, Reverend Sun Myung Moon recently made quite a complelling arguement that He is the returned messiah...

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One of my threads down the gutter. What else is new...

Can some mod just close this?

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Your threads would last longer if anyone saw an actual point in making a serious reply to you.

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Here's my try to be serious (it's hard, though):

Moore is entertaining at least, and that's what a filmmaker should be. Yet more entertaining is the outrage of the right wing about his documentaries. What concerns lying, he may be not a paragon of veraciousness (but voraciousness for certain ), but compared with Bush and his cronies he's trustworthy like the Webster encyclopedia.

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Now seriously, what do you guys think of Moore? A retard or jesus?

A funny comedian who knows the power of political satire.

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Oh, I'd consider him on about the same level as the White House - or any other government agency - in terms of his veracity.

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Actually, Reverend Sun Myung Moon recently made quite a complelling arguement that He is the returned messiah...


He is lying!

I am the returned Messiah. There is only a right and a wrong in this, and I stand as right.

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We already had a thread on this. I played the Tao card and nothing beats the Tao card because the Tao card is all cards and all cards are the Tao card...

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I already pay a lot through bad government to see thousands of political ads every election cycle. There is no way in hell I'm going to start voluntarily wasting my time and discretionary income in order to see more blatant propoganda / bogus-info-tainment. Especially as this will only encourage more of the same, next time perhaps something from the anorexic blonde harpie to "balance" things. Moore only wants to lower whatever is left of debate in this country to his own reptilian level. No thanks.

 
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