12-10-2004 04:02									#331
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It is a yahoo address, he probably already gets about 300 spams per day as is, what's a few more between friends?

	08-11-2004 02:05									#332
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Since Smacksim has fallen off the face of the Earth for the time being (), I think we should still keep this project going, it can't be allowed to die. Could I get people who have upgraded something between the most recent release and now (most likely Geomodder and Lord Nword) to send their stuff to me at zzzweldingmaskman@hotmail.comzzz (remove all occurences of 'z'). I don't want to mess around with balance or anything major, just meybe start on some of the graphics and generally keep the project warm until Smacksim's return.

	08-11-2004 18:12									#333
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I currently don't have any updates to send; I haven't played SMAC in a week n a half.
I'll do that final grammar/link check of the datalinks the weekend if I have the time (just have to procrastinate to find time )

	09-11-2004 02:20									#334
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Good to see you're still here Lord N.
Who else is still interested?

	09-11-2004 02:39									#335
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Well I don't have a particular desire to get involved in the project (only because I have my own small project going on), but I would hate to see all the effort here wasted. So if there is anything you all need help with, let me know.

FREE SMACKSIM!!!

Seriously though, I hope he just got a little burnt out and will come back soon

	11-11-2004 18:00									#336
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I'm full of BS if I think i'll have my editing done by the weekend... and really, all I'm doing is checking the links, to make sure they go to the correct datalinks entry...

Maybe around Christmas....

I've got the classic load of homework from the Junior year of AP High school classes (incl. 20 pg research paper... )

	12-11-2004 02:27									#337
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Uhuh, and I've got end of semester exams.
It happens.
And I'ff probably fall off the face of the Earth around the 27th of December, so things will probably grind to a halt then as well.

	01-12-2004 07:54									#338
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I'm pretty sure, though too lazy to check atm, that there isn't a file that describes Aldebaran itself in the "real world." I figure as long as no one (important) objects, I'll go ahead and put a little quip in the datalinks about it... And post all of that in a month

Something like Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldebaran

I also confess to my sin of only playing Aldebaran for maybe an hour over thanksgiving break...

	03-12-2004 03:43									#339
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I'm falling off the face of the Earth earlier than expected, owing to an RSI . So don't worry if I go nonresponsive for an extended period of time (e.g. until, say 20/Jan/2005, when I return from a holiday).

	26-12-2004 20:50									#340
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Just in case you do send something to this thread (this applies to anyone, but Lord Nword in particular) I won't hear of it until Jan 20, 2005, just so you know I'm not pulling a Smacksim vanishing act (tm).

	26-12-2004 21:00									#341
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quote: Smacksim posted something about troubles with internet access. It was around the time Ivan stormed America

Was he amongst those who got lost during the storm?
(Were there any?)

	27-12-2004 22:04									#342
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I'm way to uninspired to do the typo editing

	03-01-2005 16:24									#343
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Hey buddies!

Due to prolonged absence of SmackSim, this project seems to have stopped.

We, in ACDG III have been conducting searches and attempting contact with SmackSim for some time now.
Unsucessfully..

As he's away (maybe forever), an opinion has raised that this project should be continued even without SmackSims presence.

Therefore we ask you all (contributers to this project) to report here and answer a few questions:

1.Is it possible to continue without SmackSim?

Just to know maybe he kept all files somewhere behind closed door..

2.Where the progress could be seen?

Files, screenshots etc.

3.Each of the contributors, please name:

a. Your contribution (a short list of your works here)
b. Your willingness to go on with this project with some help from new guys (us )


Please answer these questions, so we can get a picture how much is done and how much still needs to be done.

Also - after all active contributors report here, we an make a list of duties, so each one of us knows what must he do (depending on skills and interest, of course), and which things need a person who'd be working on them.

best regards,
binTravkin

	03-01-2005 18:16									#344
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Ohhhemmgeee!!
Teh govremunt si takin ober!!

I'm perfectly willing to continue the work...

My role is basically as a play tester... And its still the only way that I play SMAC atm.

Considering the boringness of searching out typos and misnamed links, I didn't convince myself to work on the project over break (which ended yesterday).

I totally lack any relevant programming skills (i.e. Batch files...).

I believe the only graphics that still need to be done are a few faction leader pics that Smacksim wanted to revise...

It also seems to me that the techs are somewhat unbalanced. The weapons and armors can be gained in almost any order. This creates two main effects:
-Less upgrading is needed.
-Technological advantages are often much more extreme.

So in conclusion, we can finish this project without Smacksim. If we still want the fancy installer we'll have to find someone to do that. IMO, we don't really need it. Modman works fine . Just creating another folder for the installation of Aldebaran works too.

~Lord Nword

	03-01-2005 18:34									#345
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quote: Ohhhemmgeee!! Teh govremunt si takin ober!!

You bet!

So, we wait a bit for #endgame's response and for government people to organise themselves for this task..

	03-01-2005 23:37									#346
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So how about you tell us what your group's goals and general idea is :-p

	03-01-2005 23:47									#347
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General idea:

To continue modifying Aldebaran project, so it becomes available for SMAX also.

Goals:
1.see above
2.to draw the best CMN's and modder's attention to this project. (we would like get Googlie, Darsnan, Kody and maybe other veterans involved. At least as idea generators)
3.to dedicate the work to our dear SmackSim who was the author of the idea and seemingly got lost in the Ivan..

You can contact me on ICQ #339-500-616 for extended talks..

	04-01-2005 02:06									#348
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Sounds good.

It already works with SMAX though. (including all of the techs and stuff)

	04-01-2005 23:35									#349
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I double checked my statement above. The version listed in the game is certainly SMAX.

A couple of other things that need to be done:
-Put together a complete list and source of the current set of files for the mod. Essentially just the release on pg. 11 and the newer Planetlover graphics also on that page.
-As mentioned at the beginning of page 11 by smacksim, we could attempt to replace the interludes with a new story for Aldebaran. I'm not volunteering.

I also doubt I'll have much time in the next couple months to do anything worth mentioning in terms of the usual link name/typos stuff.

~LN

	04-01-2005 23:41									#350
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Sorry seems I found it - I have not gone through all the thread yet..

	05-01-2005 18:14									#351
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#endgame here, reporting in from Thailand on holiday (fortunately not anywhere near the tsunami-hit areas):

I recall Darsnan being interested and his area of expertiese being the alpha(x).txt file.

We need more CMNs in and I'd like to see an Aldebaran DG. That'd be cool and increase interest.

I can't do much until ~20th Jan, when I return to Australia. My main focus with the project was fileswatter/ModMan, but I'd like to give updating facility/tech gfx a shot (ModMan can handle swapping those, too )

	05-01-2005 19:13									#352
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quote: Originally posted by #endgame #endgame here, reporting in from Thailand on holiday (fortunately not anywhere near the tsunami-hit areas)

Well thats good to hear!

quote: Originally posted by #endgame I recall Darsnan being interested and his area of expertiese being the alpha(x).txt file.

I have, can, and will assist in this area (as well as Factional and script.txt files). I guess my only concern here is that Smacksim had a specific plan (or direction) for everything, of which I am afraid I may only "muddy the picture" so to speak.

quote: Originally posted by #endgame We need more CMNs in and I'd like to see an Aldebaran DG. That'd be cool and increase interest.

A DG would be good, and I can CMN that as well as any PBEM's.

quote: Originally posted by #endgame I can't do much until ~20th Jan, when I return to Australia. My main focus with the project was fileswatter/ModMan, but I'd like to give updating facility/tech gfx a shot (ModMan can handle swapping those, too )

I've got 2 PBEM's to set up, an SP Scenario to finish and post, plus I'm working intermittently on my own mod "Beta Lyrae", so probably wouldn't be available till near the end of the month anyways to assist with Aldebaran. Regardless, you can count me in (as of then ) to continue helping with this project. FYI.


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	05-01-2005 21:39									#353
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quote: I'd like to see an Aldebaran DG. That'd be cool and increase interest.

Good idea!

quote: I have, can, and will assist in this area (as well as Factional and script.txt files). I guess my only concern here is that Smacksim had a specific plan (or direction) for everything, of which I am afraid I may only "muddy the picture" so to speak.

Well, I think the main concepts of this project we have understood, if there's something we won't make as SmackSim wanted it, it will be much worse than to make nothing at all.

And you're the best at this anyway - at least you had contact with SmackSim during this project, so you might know much more than any other CMN if we ask for his help.

quote: I've got 2 PBEM's to set up, an SP Scenario to finish and post, plus I'm working intermittently on my own mod "Beta Lyrae", so probably wouldn't be available till near the end of the month anyways to assist with Aldebaran. Regardless, you can count me in (as of then ) to continue helping with this project. FYI.

No haste - endgame and me are busy till Feb also, we should make a review of what is done at the end of Jan.

We are still waiting for GeoModder to sign in if he still wants to participate.

	07-01-2005 07:36									#354
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One of the things that I think would be interesting to do is turn the Datalinks into a compedium of SMAC knowledge...

I THINK we can rename the sections of the datalinks using the labels.txt file. We can just combine the "BASIC CONCEPTS" and "ADVANCED CONCEPTS" and then put in a new section of "DERIVED CONCEPTS" or something like that...

*astounds himself with pure brilliance*

I think someone should simply go through the labels.txt file and change it around a bit. I.E., it still refers to orbital defense pods when they're now called projection defense pods or something...

It should also be noted that I am also busy with stuff in life till at least feb, and probably a few months longer (read till summer)... But it's SMAC, can't quit

Edit:
OK, I'm doing it right now, hehe...
A list of a few changes:
Airdrop is now Horizon Transmit
Orbital Insertion is now Global Transmit
(from Transmitter Unit... Unsure if it should be Transmit or Transmission)
Soil Enricher to Xenophagi
Alpha Centauri to Aldebaran

I haven't really figured a good alternative for what to call the renamed satellites as a group... They're not all satellites now

I've also attached the current labels.txt file.
Note that there is already a labels.txt file in the mod pack, and this is based off the minimal changes in that file.... So just replace it

~LN

Last edited by Lord Nword on 07-01-2005 at 08:24

	07-01-2005 08:26									#355
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And the file....

Its so small i didn't zip it...

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	07-01-2005 12:36									#356
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Well, res sats are now Core Facilities, IIRC and are ODPs still ODPs?

Everyone still keen, check Page 1. SmackSim was kind enough to list some of his goals in enormous posts. Also, will we go for SMAC, SMAX or both?

Keep the dream alive people,
#endgame.

	07-01-2005 13:18									#357
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I will read through all the posts when I have time to do, but if you sometimes notice that Im proposing something "wrong" in SmackSims opinion, just lemme know!

	08-01-2005 03:07									#358
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I finally tested last night's changes and found they didn't do quite what i was looking for... I did find what I was looking for in the scriptx.txt file.

So I changed orbital insertion/air drop references, and also changed orbital defense pod to projection defense pod. Those things are done (although of course there is other stuff to be fixed... like air defense against transmits doesn't make too much sense)...

The regular script.txt file was edited too, but I didn't edit the orbital defense pods which are actually called transmitter defense pods in reg SMAC (news to me)...

Attaching the zip of course.

Edit:
I'm not sure what's wrong, I still haven't managed to get the messages I'm looking at changed.. specifically I'm looking at the message you get when you press 'i' for any unit that can't make airdrops... scriptx.txt contains the exact warning message, but changing it hasn't had any effect...

I'll have to test this some more... and of course, I dont' have that much time on my hands

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	10-01-2005 14:23									#359
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quote: like air defense against transmits doesn't make too much sense

Has anyone heard where the "airdefense range=2" parameter stands or is it hardcoded?
If it's hardcoded we can't do nothing..

I think from these:
transmitter defense pods
projection defense pod

The second one sounds better (a bit mystical.. )

quote: Edit: I'm not sure what's wrong, I still haven't managed to get the messages I'm looking at changed.. specifically I'm looking at the message you get when you press 'i' for any unit that can't make airdrops... scriptx.txt contains the exact warning message, but changing it hasn't had any effect...

We should ask Darsnan to help us here..

	11-01-2005 14:46									#360
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One other thing, we currently have more than 7 Aldebaran factions, do we want to trim it down?