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Maniac is offline Maniac
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Jul 1999
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I didn't want to say it as Modo seemed to like it, but err... I completely agree with you: Art of War: soooooo overrated.

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Hem! Half a brain! Yes but...

Remember we are wargamers here, conversed in the things of war.
One of my favourite sentences (I have many though) translates like "Common sense isn't that common after all!". It's even more real in the military world (or at least with war leaders).
At the NATO HQ in Skopje is placated "Amateurs talk about tactics, professionals talk about logistics". For most people, war is about packing troops, planes, tanks and sending them full frontal. Alternate strategies, special operations (often never known, except when they fail) aren't so good-looking. But we know the better army won't last long without oil, food and ammo or without a reason to fight.

The best exemple of this are the Japanese in WWII. Looking for carrier battles when US submarines kept sinking their merchant ships. Sending waves after waves of men in Guadalcanal when the Marines hold on and the Navy sunk transports.

Simple doesn't mean simplistic.

As for Starship Troopers (the book), even I found it too apologetic of the militarisation of society.

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Simple doesn't mean simplistic.

And in it's simplicity lies the brilliancy.

Still, there are less obvious points in the book, like the ones about terrain, and about the difference in numbers of two engaging forces.

Not to mention the text is ancient, and was far from obsious back then. You know, not all people play strategy games all their life (like when you first got a computer ).

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As for Starship Troopers (the book), even I found it too apologetic of the militarisation of society.


I agree of course. The Starship Troopers universe is not one I'd like to live in in reality. But for imagining a Spartan society I personally thought some elements fitted quite well.

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A drink for Captain Chang!

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Jul 2004
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Yes, welcome to Sparta Chang

I have a question though. I finally got SMAX! Still haven't had much time to play it, but it looks nice and everything.

Unfortunately, the faction colors are screwed when I load the ACDG saves. I remember you had to switch around the factions in some text file or other. Can somebody tell me which file and how

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find the alphacentauri.ini file and change the seven factions order to:

Faction 1=GAIANS
Faction 2=HIVE
Faction 3=UNIV
Faction 4=ANGELS
Faction 5=MORGAN
Faction 6=SPARTANS
Faction 7=PEACE

(If that sounds hack-ishly difficult, then just start a new game and select the seven factions in that order, then start the game and immediately save it (as rubbish, 2101, or something equally silly) then exit.

Next time you load ACDG it'll load with the right faction graphics

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Jul 2004
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Thanks Googlie! Now I have seen Sparta
I'm still having some problems with a bunch of drones showing up in the main base screen, but they don't seem to appear anywhere else. Odd that... But other than that, I like Sparta

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yeah - we all get those "fake drones" as well on a base-by-base basis (change from the "resource" window in the baseview to the "psych" one and you can see that they are fake --- or use the F4 screen and view the population on a macro basis)

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Now that the Castor Horsemen have disbanded and are fighting a guerilla war in Morgania or returning home on improvised rafts, I suddenly find myself unemployed! There are quite a few new units being commissioned these days, and not too many commanding officers, I'll check the save and find a nice one and send in my application

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* Maniac enters the mess, orders a fungal gin, looks around for a familiar face, and after getting his drink walks to Snoddasmannen who is still contemplating what unit(s) to command.

Ah, I'm glad I've found you, Snoddasmannen. Over at Air Force Command we're trying to find out what are the the odds for certain of our aircraft to defeat that veteran plasma garrison in Vander Eudaimonics. That's why I'd like to use your combat simulator, but unfortunately I can't find back the link anymore. Do you still have it by any chance?

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* Snoddasmannen looks up from the just released public message from the Gaians. A large vein appears to be throbbing in his forehead and the metal mug in his right hand seems to be surrendering to pressure.

Huh? Oh greetings Colonel. You can find that here:
http://www2.onyx.nu/pb/alpha/AlphaBattle.htm

It is far from perfect, but it could give you a hint in the right direction.

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Thanks a lot! Gone into my favourites! Drink some fungal gins on my costs. I heard a whole new shipload is coming from Arcadia, so need to hold back.

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Yeah give me a couple of those. I'm going to try to learn to ski downhill tomorrow, I've never done that in my life

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* Snoddasmannen looks up from the just released public message from the Gaians. A large vein appears to be throbbing in his forehead and the metal mug in his right hand seems to be surrendering to pressure.

They are funny, aren't they? It's like they thought our "strategy" should consist of head-on all-out assaults against the closest enemy. One would think this long game should have convinced people otherwise, but...

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Small update. I have SMAX!

This means there will be usually one more download of new saves.
EDIT: Once I find the password.
EDIT: Found it.

Last edited by Modo44 on 15-04-2005 at 19:06

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Hiya, how are things?

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Hi - Kody. Welcome back!!

"Things" are just fine. We've been in vendetta with the uni, and enslaved them, with the Hive, but captured - and returned - a base to buy a truce.

We've had a longstanding vendetta with Morgan (and destroyed their PTS base) and a turn or so ago, with the Gaians.

The PK's were elected governor, and Kassiopeia has been working behind the scenes to get a roleplay going with a Peace Conference.

We're # 1 in tech (until this turn, when the Hive gets it, only faction with aircraft), energy credits and land, and #2 behind the Hive in population and power (altho we're #1 in Alpha Centauri scoring).

So, in a nutshell, "things" are going great (for the time being)

How are things with you?

G.

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Hey Googlie,

Cool, sounds like you have things well in hand.

I've been playing an online morgp, but decided to take a break for now since I was spending too much time on it. Been visiting my old haunts since I'm kindof bored.

I think I'm going to borrow out another library book tomorrow. My friend Vev is holding a party at his house on monday and I'm going to help him buy supplies tomorrow. Probably will nip off to the library while I'm there.

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I guess this is the quickest way to reach you.

Googlie, I just met the University in 'Maniacal And Fossil Herculism'. The first and only thing he asked was "50 credits or else...". So I'm wondering, is the AI set up with specific favouritisms and aversions towards certain players in this game?

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No - no-one was set to be hostile - or overly friendly. 2 of the 3 AI were set up to 'want to talk" to 2 human players, and no action towards the other 2 (different pair for each of the 2 AI factions set up that way) and the 3rd AI faction was just left to negotiate as it saw fit.

So I dunno why the Uni would start off demanding 50 ec's from you, unbless the game detected that it was stronger than you currently are. that seems to trigger AI aggressive behavious, if they see that they have either a military or technology lead.

I didn';t set any of the AI's to be "exceptionally peaceful" either, but neither did I set them to "aggressive"

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So I dunno why the Uni would start off demanding 50 ec's from you, unbless the game detected that it was stronger than you currently are. that seems to trigger AI aggressive behavious, if they see that they have either a military or technology lead.


That's certainly the case! More than doubly my population!

Thanks for the reply!

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That's certainly the case! More than doubly my population!



Well, they did each start off with 4 pre-established bases (so that I could give the base governors their orders)

(and as an aside, will you be able to sit in on the proposed turnchat live invasion?)

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(and as an aside, will you be able to sit in on the proposed turnchat live invasion?)


nope

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Hey, I have a quick question: would there happen to be any pics or, better yet, save files from the ACDG2 that I could look at? I'm just kind of curious to see how that game worked out.

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Man!

I totally forgot about the game. I'm terribly sorry. It doesn't seem to have died yet, though, which is a good thing. The RP is nonexistent, but at least turns are going through the circuit.

I have a good excuse, though, I managed to wiggle myself into university and I'll start in political science come September. Right now I'm mostly working, though, at an art exhibition (been there all summer now).

So, how are we doing? Have we already decided which ass it is we're going to kick? Still way ahead in the tech race against all odds? Have we been forgiven by the other factions for our eradication of Morgan Industries?

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Hey, good to hear from ya, Kassi. The game is going great, I think. We're #1 in the powergraph chart, and we're still tech leader. The last few years we've been in heavy pop-boom mode. Meanwhile we annihilated the Peacekeepers and became sole masters of Arcadia.

As far as the diplomatic situation goes, it's anybody's guess. The others have not proven very talkative recently, and we have no idea whether that would be a good or a bad sign. We were in a brief vendetta with the Data Angels after we had to eliminate two probe teams which they foolishly landed on the Arcadian continent right next to a base. But they quickly signed a treaty and resumed business as usual.

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So, how are we doing?

I think we officially ROCK!

quote:
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Have we already decided which ass it is we're going to kick?

Surpsrisingly, no. Lal just went down for good, and the party is not over yet.

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Still way ahead in the tech race against all odds?

Still ahead, yes. And the odds... have changed a bit — in our favour.

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Have we been forgiven by the other factions for our eradication of Morgan Industries?

Nobody talks to us, so it is hard to say. Nobody really did for a long while now. They do not seem full-time allied, though, which is weird.

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Hmmm, I found a PEACE save file from the last game, and I tried opening it (using the only password I could find - neptune) but it rejected the password. Anybody know the PEACE password from the last ACDG?

 
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